Dr Chee Soon Juan launched his new book A Nation Cheated on 31 Aug 08 during which he spoke to the more than 150 guests. Part I of the speech is reproduced below. The book is available at Kinokuniya Bookstore at Takashimaya Shopping Centre. You can also purchase a copy by emailing
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When I was in jail in 2006, I re-read the book Comet In Our Sky, a compilation of essays written by friends and associates of the late Lim Chin Siong. I will assume most of you here know Lim Chin Siong and will not endeavour to go into detail how he was seen by the majority of Singaporeans as the natural leader of our then fledgling republic in the 1950s and 60s, other than to say that his charisma and compassionate style of leadership won the hearts and minds of many.
The book includes a chapter written by Professor of Southeast Asian Studies, Tim Harper, from Cambridge University. Professor Harper documented his research after poring through bundles of de-classified papers, memos, letters, etc. written by Britsh colonial officials during the turbulent period leading up to Singapore's independence.
The picture that emerged was one not quite the story that I heard and read growing up. In a nutshell, the Professor's account was that the people of Singapore wanted Lim Chin Siong as their leader but the British would not allow it and wanted Lee Kuan Yew instead.
So we have two versions of what happened: one written written by a disinterested, third-party academic and based on verifiable de-classifed papers, and the other by Lee Kuan Yew who still has vested personal interests in telling these events. I do not think I would be far wrong if I say that the majority of people would look to the former for a more accurate and objective account of that part of history.
This is what I tried to do in the first part of A Nation Cheated, that is, summarise Professor Harper's research finding's.
But my nerves are rubbed raw when I keep hearing Lee Kuan Yew, who came to power backed by the colonialists, rant about how the West should not foist its system on an Asian people, meaning us. Somehow the democratic practices that allowed Lee Kuan Yew to become prime minister suddenly become Western and not suited for us Singaporeans.
Today the propaganda continues unabated, that Singaporeans are not interest in human rights and democracy. I will come to this subject in a moment and show you how this lie has now been exposed.
For now, let me dwell a little on the notion that things have worked worked wonderfully for Singaporeans.
Whether it is our CPF or healthcare costs or wages or our financial reserves, I have presented evidence in the book to show how things are not quite what they seem. I have tried to stay away from polemics especially in part two of the book and concentrated on putting together the data from alternative sources to make my case. I will leave it to you the reader to decide for yourself whether I have done my job or not.
To illustrate what I really set out to say in this book, I want to relate a story. It is about a man whom I met when I went for my jog one morning. He is in his mid-seventies and works for the town council as a cleaner. He starts work at 7 am and knocks off at about one or two in the afternoon depending on how much work there is that day. He works six days a week. His salary? $400 a month.
When he was a young man in his 20s, he was told that if he just stayed disciplined, didn't support independent unions, didn't clamour for his rights and trusted the PAP to govern in his best interest, he would be better off. He did that, or at least he wasn't given a choice.
Today, he is told that he must not think of retiring. In fact he is told that he needs to work for less pay. He is told that part of his savings is in Merill Lynch and in about 15 to 20 years, he should be able to start seeing returns on the investment, that is if the bank doesn't go belly up first.
Doesn't the word "cheated" come to mind?
This old man's story is not an aberration. Statistics tell us that our poorest segment of society continue to see their wages shrink. Fifty percent of the people haven't seen their incomes grow over the past ten years.
But then our ministers increased the salaries in 2007 by a heart-stopping 85 percent. The president is paid $4 million a year, for what no one quite knows. The Senior Minister and Minister Mentor are also paid close to that amount, again for what no one quite understands. The Prime Minister is paid $3.8 million which works out to be about $10,000 a day.
They tell you that they must be amply rewarded for building such a fine country. Really? Let's see what Singaporeans think:
Despite having gone through national education at school, 37 percent of Singaporean youths say they are not patriotic. More than 50 percent want to emigrate overseas if given a chance. (Channel News Asia, 17 January 2007)
Another survey of older Singaporeans showed that two-thirds said they have considered retiring in another country. (Straits Times, 20 August 2008)
A few weeks ago, the Government confirmed that an average of 1,000 Singaporeans had given up their citizenship annually over the last three years. (Asia Times, 21 August 2008)
Have you thought of this number before, ladies and gentlemen? These are astounding figures. I cannot think of another country where after 50 years of uninterrupted rule, we produce a nation where its people profess no love for it and can't wait to get out?
Tell me, hand on heart, that you still think that the PAP has governed in the interest of Singapore and Singaporeans. Tell me that we have not been cheated.
Wed 03 Sep 2008 11:29 PM
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Mike - How to cheat Kiasu Singaporeans?
Singaporeans are so Kiasu..
How can be cheated so easily?
First one not cheated is CSJ..
The other Singaporeans are also not stupid... I Not Stupid..
Where got conned?
Wed 03 Sep 2008 11:55 PM
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tewniaseng
Pap members can cycle in the park, why opposition members need a police permit to cycle ? LKY is a double head snake.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 12:15 AM
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President Bush
If Lim Chin Siong became PM, whether or not he was a true communist, President Johnnson would have invaded Singapore, just like Vietnam.
Learn your International Relations Chee.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 12:28 AM
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Nick
I'm gonna buy this book!!
You should too!!!
I want to see school kids reading this!!!!
Thu 04 Sep 2008 12:49 AM
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Tan Tai Wei - What to expect reading Professor Harper and LKY
As an academic, especially with the reputation of Cambridge to maintain, that historian must have guarded his creditability and credentials very carefully.
Both for pure scholarship and career advancement, he will have to be convincing to fellow experts, disinterestedly in the search for truth, within the international community of historians.
However, the business of lawyers and politicians, especially political pragmatists, is to slant their arguments and evidences, either on behalf of clients, or propagating for votes, etc.
And LKY was lawyer, and present pragmatic politician. Plus his version of Lim Chin Siong is still of contemporary party interest to the PAP.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 1:22 AM
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Tan Tai Wei
I was a boy then when the Chinese school students boycotted exams, camped in, confronted the police, tear gas was fired, several students shot, etc. And Lim Chin Siong and others, we were made to believe, were the communist culprits behind it all.
Now I read that that was part of the unrest that Lim Yew Hock, the then Chief Minister, in secret collusion with the British, had deliberatedly instigated, in order to have the excuse to arrest Lim and others in the Barisan Socialis, and make way for LKY and the PAP, and all this done with the tacit endorsement of LKY and associates!
So, it not LKY's purported colluding with the British per se, but the atrocious way in which this was done, according to Prof Harper's account, and as exemplified in the incidence briefed above, that surprises.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 1:39 AM
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quantum
Is the book available in bookshops?
Thu 04 Sep 2008 2:29 AM
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AnnA - Priceless Photo
Dear SDP
I have been wanting to say this for quite sometime... here goes.
The picture of the old man pushing his carton cart and comparing between his situation with our government's first world claim is PRICELESS.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 2:35 AM
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Mikee - If LKY does not sue
If LKY does not sue then it must be the truth. Sue Sue Sue. Let see if you can win in the British court.
I think the British government must have altered the declassified documents to do him in. Haha
Thu 04 Sep 2008 2:43 AM
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Anonymous
As far as Singapore's history is concerned, there is only one version. The Lee's version. LOL.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 4:24 AM
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Old Uncle's Friend - Wow! My Friend appears again!
I have a question - did the SDP supporter/member help old uncle to push his cart? Or no.. just took the picture to use for your political ends and moved on? Has the SDP ever done anything to help the poor (sorry protest not counted)? Its so easy to point out there are poor people. What it takes heart and effort to DO something.
IF and When Chee wins his battle - what next? Go fight for the rights of Burmese? Go Stanford to give lectures like "My life, my fight, my struggle"? What about the bread and butter issues of Singaporeans? Because there is democracy - there will be no poverty? Because there is a free press, people will not leave Singapore? Politics is about running a country - sound economics, good foreign relations, managing crime - has Chee ever showed any interests in these everyday issues? Does he have a solution for how we can work less, keeping attracting investment and still have enough money for the poor?
Perhaps Chee SJ is a decent man. But however you calculate the votes, the fact remains - SDP has the lowest among all parties, PAP or opposition. A political party must have a plan for the country, and cannot make "defending democracy" its sole agenda.
The situation is such - there are poor people around, and they need help. People are helping them - countless volunteers, charities, working hard. You can choose to use your hands to help or you can choose to just sit there, reading and writing these philosophical books and saying " Oh my heart bleeds for the poor"
Thu 04 Sep 2008 6:04 AM
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John McCain
Our troops are too stretched. I'll focus on Iraq. Once finished, maybe I'll consider Operation Singapore Freedom
Thu 04 Sep 2008 7:38 AM
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Election results 2010-11
Old Uncle's Friend and others.
Take note of the factst that will emerge in the next election. SDP has reached rock bottom in terms of number of candidates and percentage of votes in the GE. In the next GE it is poised to go up. The main point is how much and at what volume. That is the stragey i believe SDP is aware of. Its just a question of how they will manage it in terms of candidates, constituencies and strategy. this is to state the obvious. U can run away from the positve results for the SDP in the next election. take note of that!!!
Thu 04 Sep 2008 7:56 AM
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get ur facts right - re:
[quote=President Bush]If Lim Chin Siong became PM, whether or not he was a true communist, President Johnnson would have invaded Singapore, just like Vietnam.
Learn your International Relations Chee.[/quote]
president bush, get ur facts right on the purpose behind the Vietnam war before mouthing off. the war had nothing much to do with communism. it's all about the money. do u know the rules of engagement for US soldiers n why the war lasted so long? please do ur research first. can't stand people who thinks they know a lot when their view is so myopic n ignorant.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:04 AM
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Agnes Chia - To: Old Uncle's Friend
[quote]Politics is about running a country - sound economics, good foreign relations, managing crime [/quote]
Politics is also about being concern with social issues and managing the rise of social ills. Or rather, when the ministers are elected, they should stop behaving like politicians first. They should conduct themselves each as a as statesman and then second as a politician.
Democracy is bread and butter for us as citizens. It is our lifeline. If we give up our rights to speak up and to fight for our own inheritance to this land to what we and our forefathers have built up, then we lose our rights to the decent livelihood we deserve as citizens. We must remember we have our birth rights as citizens.
First of all, we can all see clearly how the ruling party has made use of the fear factor in us and we as citizens have evolved to such a pathetic state of not even daring to speak up against policies which are unsound and policies which are not benefiting Singaporeans. Some of which are even harmful to Singaporeans. You mentioned about helping the poor and there are many welfare organisations and volunteers out there to do all these things and what is SDP doing. Doing all these good works are ways of helping these groups definitely. However, we have been firefighting everyday non stop helping these groups but all these which have been extended do not cure the root of the problems. There are many social policies and social assistance schemes which the government had meted out which based on my humble assessment and experiences, have offer not much integration and do not extend help in a way which will effect a better than temporary change to the helpless situaton the needy Singaporeans are in. Refer to what MP Dr. Lily Neo had mentioned fiercely against her MCYS counterpart during Parliament last week. Many of these schemes are just touching the iceberg of the matter without offering any cure.
The ministers from different ministries also do not seem to work in an integrated manner and each ministry has its own agenda and strives to achieve its own. However, many social policies affecting the poor and the middle income especially require a multi discplinary, inter-ministerial approach. Perhaps there have been some efforts one may say but my question would be how much efforts? Not even wanting to mention concerted efforts. How many times have the voices from the ground been escalated to the top such that the minsters get to hear? The people on the ground, including many officers and workers in the people helping profession, are too muted to speak up and to counter views nor to put forth useful debates. This is due to the fear factor which the ruling party has been instilling since decades ago, ironically leading to such highly educated intellects behaving irrationally. Or perhaps, even if people from the ground or the officers and workers helping these groups of people did raise issues and did speak up, how many times have these decision makers taken time and put in considerations to what we have said? How many times have they put aside their pride and wonder if the points we made perhaps made better sense?
And all these is due to the lack of democracy from the start. The lack of transparency, the lack of accountability, the lack of humility as leaders to listen to the people, etc, the arrogrance from the ruling party...Once again, all these boils down to the lack of democracy. If there is democracy, what the people say has power. You can see, even the journalist who are supposed to speak TRUTH to the POWER structures (this is what journalist in other developed countries are doing as we can see their state leaders are matured enough to handle such press). They are so fearful and they give up that right and perogative to speak up, to speak the truth. The truth shall set us free. However, there is no freedom as truth is already far away.
So what the SDP is fighting for is considered a very worthy cause.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 8:25 AM
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someone sad - to old uncle's friend
to the things that you have just said in summary to what the sdp has or has not done or will or will not do to the old man pushing the cart or to the future of singapore - SDP are already miles and light years ahead of the current, always winning party already by their means.
the current, always winning party wouldn't even want to report on the old man for example, let alone take a picture and an effort to realize that something is wrong. you know that don't you?
instead, they tell the world to show them if there are beggars at all in singapore.
what do you think? reply me if you can.
the fact remains that the population are still afraid to vote for the opposition, but trust me, things will change. when poor people get bullied without improvements for years, they will retaliate by voting for opposition, as they will have nothing to lose but all to gain when that time comes, and that time will be in the next GE. mark my words.
How can SDP help the poor at this moment now when it is tied up, gagged, and locked up? You can't expect a handicapped person to do so many things can you? If they were as rich as the party we all know, I would even bet my last dollar that they will endevour to help the poor Singaporeans out with their resources, rather than to ask them to eat shit and not even think about retirement, if it sounds familiar to you.
as mentioned by you ->
"Politics is about running a country - sound economics, good foreign relations, managing crime...'
Sound economics. do you think Singapore is having that right now? Look at temasek, one day invest in this, next day news report that same company having bigger losses with writeoffs.
Good foreign relations. do you think Singapore is having that right now? Remember when someone was promoted to one of the highest appointments in Singapore, and when he visited Taiwan for 'personal reasons'(even the president of Taiwan welcomed him at the airport?)? China was very unhappy then. Malaysia still seem to dislike us now anyway.
Yes the SDP may be unproven in many things, but I'm sure if we give them a try, I'm pretty sure they'd do better than the current situation now (whereby issues such as employment.etc are all f**ked up and the media keeps lying that things are going well.)
Thu 04 Sep 2008 6:30 PM|
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Not My SDP - Cheated? SDP web readers are
There are lots of myth and legends in the arguments of SDP which I will seek to dispel in my blog
Thu 04 Sep 2008 6:42 PM
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Agnes Chia - There is a Limit to Social Responsibility
[quote]People are helping them - countless volunteers, charities, working hard. You can choose to use your hands to help or you can choose to just sit there, reading and writing [/quote]
There is a limit to how much individual social responsibility and corporate social responsibility can go, can help. The State cannot expect all these more well off and abled individuals and coporations keep pumping in money and efforts without the State at the same time doing their share of responsibility. The State in fact must do much more in comparison as this is one of the reason why the government is elected for. However, there are so many people who fall through the cracks and are not receiving the social assistance or financial assistance they are supposed to deserve. There are more and more homeless and displaced families and displaced persons these days. I see for myself more and more, especially this year. The is huge service gaps which the State is not looking into it seriousness. So what is the State doing? We can't expect the SDP who is not the State to be able to mete out the responsibility of the State. However, educating the public in or to push boundaries and challenge the unjust system helps. This is one way to effect change. Writing books, lobbying, campaigning (like the TBT), all these work towards empowering the people, empowering the people's minds which is essential even before we talk about we speaking up for what we deserve and getting the State to listen to us. Don't tell me a homeless person who has totally no means of livelihood do not deserve help from the State to have his condition aid toward betterment? Especially after all the bank saga, the whole world knows how rich this little red dot is.
Thu 04 Sep 2008 7:18 PM
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Tan Tai Wei
About the 4 million dollar pay of the MM and SM ("for what no one quite understands"CSJ).....
Some people have joked (unfairly, I know) about Goh Chok Tong's being "the holy ghost" to "father and ....". But, as they say, "serious things" could be "said in jest", and so the following observation could have some truth.
Would we have Goh today as SM, if LKY had not remained as SM after stepping down as PM, and now has remained as MM instead of retiring?
Which other country needs two retired PMs to be "goal keeper" and "mentor" to the present PM? Unique to Singapore? No. Unique yes, but only to LKY.
The post of SM was uniquely created for LKY. But it would be unwise to let LKY appear specially favoured. So, Goh had also to remain as SM after stepping down as PM, especially when LKY was still to stay, taking on yet another uniquely created post! Can't have only LKY still around, after every change of leadership!
So, because of LKY's staying on, Goh has to remain too, and paid that 4 million salary also, which CSJ wonders "what for". (CSJ wonders, too, why the president is also thus paid. Well, he can't be paid less than....)
Any one wants to bet that, after LKY is eventually really gone, Singapore will continue to have SMs and MMs? One wonders, too, should LKY continue to live .... Goh would then have the chance to also be MM, but what new designation could they then create for LKY?
By the way the "senior" and "mentor" in the designations mean being senior and mentor even to the PM, for he is also a minister.
So, this year they made this evident at the NDP. For the first time after stepping down as PM, LKY entered the parade in a motorcade. And, of course, because of that arrangement, Goh too, in his official white mercedes.
But their motorcade rode in before the PM's, and not, like the President's, after. This implied that though as SM and MM they are senior in protocol to other ministers, they are not above the PM, like the President who arrived after the PM.
What confusion LKY's non-retirement has caused, hopefully only at the NDP!
And the nation has to pay 12 million to three prime ministers (one PM, and two other PMs, one senior and one mentor to him - remember I said the "minister" in the designations SM and MM includes all ministers, the PM also.)
Fri 05 Sep 2008 4:18 AM
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Anonymous
i find the various discussions amusing. An eye-opener no doubt. Very informative indeed. i'll check back on a regular basis.
Fri 05 Sep 2008 4:46 AM
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Anonymous - re:
[quote=President Bush]If Lim Chin Siong became PM, whether or not he was a true communist, President Johnnson would have invaded Singapore, just like Vietnam.
Learn your International Relations Chee.[/quote]
Hmmm...why did Lim went into exile in London instead of Beijing,PRC or Moscow,USSR?
Fri 05 Sep 2008 6:23 AM
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Mikeer - Yes, I have been cheated
Yes, I have been cheated and betrayed by LKY and the PAP. I am totally disgusted. Even the prostitutes in Geylang are more respectable than them.
Fri 05 Sep 2008 10:59 PM
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me
they say history is written by victors. how true...
Sat 06 Sep 2008 12:28 AM
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Richard Kong - Yes, I have been cheated too
[quote=Mikeer]Yes, I have been cheated and betrayed by LKY and the PAP. I am totally disgusted. Even the prostitutes in Geylang are more respectable than them.[/quote]
Yes, I have been cheated too. My MP, the founding father of SDP, has been cheated by the author A Nation Cheated. Perhaps one day someone will write a book A SDP Cheated to put history in its proper perspective. If my MP was not hijacked and cheated of his baby, long ago the baby has grown to form the govt. Remember there were 4 SDP MPs and now what happened. Any hope for SDP?
Sat 06 Sep 2008 9:24 AM
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Km - Yes, and continued to be cheated ..
I think Singapore is being cheated ... of a prime minister by the name of Dr. Chee Soon Juan. Dr. Chee, you are a true Singaporean and you should be PM one day.
Sat 06 Sep 2008 10:08 PM
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Tan Tai Wei
My posting above, about Lim Yew Hock's instigating the unrest that led to his arrest of Lim Chin Siong in 1956, was done impromptu and needs to be made more accurate.
It had been my reading of another academic historian, Greg Poulgrain of Griffiths University, who also has a chapter in "Comet in the Sky", which informed me that Lim deliberately provoked Lim Chin Siong and associates into the activities that enabled their arrest. This he did to show the British he could deal with leftist threats, which showing he hoped would facilitate pending talks with them about self-rule for Singapore.
Poulgrain observes that LKY was "fortuitously absent" when the arrests were being considered and made, and on his returning made a show of being "angry", alhough Lim's arrest was crucial for Lee's career enhancement. And, indeed, Lee privately praised, in conversation with the British Commissioner, Lim Yew Hock's "courage" in making the arrests.
Prof Harper also covers the activities in his essay in that book. After those arrests, there was a second wave of arrest by Lim Yew Hock of PAP leftists, that coincided with the latters' impending capture of power from LKY and associates. Lee openly claimed those arrest had been aimed to "embarrass" him, but Harper observes that not all believed Lee hadn't himself been implicated in Lim Yew Hock's move.
And both Harper and Poulgrain highlight Lee's subsequent scheming to put in place a ruling to bar political detainees from election into the Legislative Assembly, effectively to eliminate Lim Chin Siong from politics.
Sat 06 Sep 2008 11:32 PM
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AnnA - To Richard Kong
"Yes, I have been cheated too. My MP, the founding father of SDP, has been cheated by the author A Nation Cheated. Perhaps one day someone will write a book A SDP Cheated to put history in its proper perspective. If my MP was not hijacked and cheated of his baby, long ago the baby has grown to form the govt. Remember there were 4 SDP MPs and now what happened. Any hope for SDP?"
Your MP had a seat in parliament peacefully because he agrees with PAP most of the time. I guess, which was why SDP members could not agree with him agreeing with PAP. No voice from him although he is courageous enough to have a seat as an opposition member against the ruling party. He did sacrificed a lot though since the PAP was biased towards his ward. I do agree that he is a living proof that without PAP's support, Singaporean can live through.
So far, I didn't hear his voice speaking for us, Singaporean. For what I see, he is winning his votes because the residents there gets to vote and truly wants PAP out of their lives.
Bear in mind, with him not doing anything or insist on changes in ridiculous policies or speak up for majority Singaporean, he will be a bad example for other future political parties who wishes or has the charisma in changing Singapore, as a scapegoat into scaring Singaporean not to vote for others except PAP.
Sun 07 Sep 2008 6:20 AM
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Tan Tai Wei
Read Prof Harper's documented account of the process of "Operation Coldstore", started before Singapore's integration into Malaysia and executed soon after, when Lim Chin Siong and so many others in the Barisan Socialis were arrested, to be incarcerated thereafter for so many years with many others, and be appalled at the probability of Singapore's having been founded in such unscrupulous ways!
There was the groping for excuses for the intended arrests, seemingly motivated by power-struggle rather problem-solving, in absence of evidence of real communist involvement, where Lim and others could not be accused of acting unconstitionally, etc. Infact, Harper says, LKY had tried unsuccessfully, as then prime minister, to provoke Lim to take unconstitutional action, so as to justify the arrest.
Then a revolt in Brunei occurred that was a lucky break for LKY, and the Tengku and British, all having motives not entirely similar for the arrests, which the revolt provided an excuse for.
Lim Chin Siong and others could then be accused of being involved in an international subversive conspiracy, connected to events in Brunei and elsewhere.
LKY's having been thickly involved in all this witch-hunt, how can we now believe his story that he seriously thought Lim and other leftists really had communist links, at any rate links of the sort that warranted their arrest? Indeed, documents reveal that Lee had wanted to include other persons on the list for arrest, who the British, even the Tengku thought were only his political foes, even Ong Eng Guan, who had never been associated with communism.
The arrests having been made, interrogation, force, threats, even lengthy periods of solitary confinement reducing some to madness, could not produce, for public explanation, the links of the prisoners to events in Brunei, etc., and, of course, also to communist insurgency and attempted unconstitutional disturbance.
Notwithstanding that, empty "justifications" were issued for public consumption, despite that those issuing them knew they were unsubstantial.
"Operation Coldstore" gave LKY and the PAP undisputed power, which they wielded uninterruptedly through all these decades of "nation-building", for one or two of which Lim and several continued languishing in jail, some becoming mad, etc.
Assuming the professor's account is right, should we not ask what sort of foundation our nation has been built upon? He is, maybe, "founder", but founding "father"? Does such conduct come with fatherhood?
Sun 07 Sep 2008 10:41 AM
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Anonymous
its not out in bookshop yet, 1 of kino's person says it will b out in 1 or 2 weeks' time
Mon 08 Sep 2008 1:14 AM
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japan
singapore must be like malaysia like that
Mon 08 Sep 2008 4:12 AM
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Anonymous - re: Yes, I have been cheated too
[quote=Richard Kong][quote=Mikeer]Yes, I have been cheated and betrayed by LKY and the PAP. I am totally disgusted. Even the prostitutes in Geylang are more respectable than them.[/quote]
Yes, I have been cheated too. My MP, the founding father of SDP, has been cheated by the author A Nation Cheated. Perhaps one day someone will write a book A SDP Cheated to put history in its proper perspective. If my MP was not hijacked and cheated of his baby, long ago the baby has grown to form the govt. Remember there were 4 SDP MPs and now what happened. Any hope for SDP?[/quote]
If your MP is capable of forming a new government, like what you have claimed. He would have achieved that regardless if he's still running SDP or SDA.
Thu 11 Sep 2008 5:29 AM
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john - to "Election results 2010-11" and "agnes chia"
agnes, nice on the issues.
i agree with you on several points, but your concluding remarks that "the SDP is fighting for is considered a very worthy cause" sums up what i have to say about the whole sdp enterprise.
it is fighting, yes. commendably, perhaps. winning, it certainly is not.
therefore, one must naturally asks, what is wrong? why is progress, if any, so bloated only in terms of the web pages and rhetorical pseudo-policy papers sdp has been able to put up and nothing beyond that?
the ultimate aim and yardstick with which a political party worth its salt is the popular support it has with the voters. simple as that. the sdp has failed on this count and nothing quite makes up for that.
what is perhaps more frustrating is that the sdp seems intent on sticking to its means - which the voters of singapore have rejected democratically and categorically. it waits to be seen if in 2011, with the advent of technology and this website, the voters, now more "enlightened", will again let sdp know that while its cause is worthy (greater democracy, greater tax cuts, greater singaporean-first populist policies are obviously worthy and nice), its means are not acceptable and a worthy cause academically and theoretically does not equate to voters wanting to vote them into power.
therefore i think "Election results 2010-11" is being a tad presumptuous when it asserts that the sdp can only do better from now. everyone thought so, when dr chee ended his "hunger strike" (while secretly taking glucose water, of course), that the sdp cannot go lower. but he surprises us with his haranguing of the PM at election 2001.
how low can the sdp get? it waits to be seen.
ultimately, the sdp must refine its strategy and do not, in the stubborn midst of its current strategy, alienate and antagonize more singaporeans than they attract into their fold.
Thu 13 Nov 2008 7:02 PM
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Anonymous
[u]I think the British government must have altered the declassified documents to do him in. Haha[/u]
Hey, Mikee - or Mickey, the mouse???
British are gentlemen, unlike your fave LKY, they don't find lying the honorable thing to do, just like the japanese.
[quote]Politics is also about being concern with social issues and managing the rise of social ills. Or rather, when the ministers are elected, they should stop behaving like politicians first. They should conduct themselves each as a as statesman and then second as a politician.[/quote]
LET THIS CLOSE EVERY OTHER ARGUMENT ABOUT POLITICS & ITS ROLE IN SOCIETY, OKAY?
POLITICS EXIST TO ENRICH PRACTIOIONERS.
WHO'S TO SAY IF AH JUAN WON'T BECOME AS CORRUPT AS - OR EVEN MORE SO THAN - AH YEW IF HE HAD THE CHANCE TO COME INTO POWER AND HIS POSITION ENTRENCHED FOR THE NEXT SIXTY YEARS???
WAKE UP, ALL YOU PRESCHOOLERS!
"Politicians rank lower than used car salesmen."
Thu 13 Nov 2008 7:14 PM
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LondonEye - Why? Here's your answer
[quote]Hmmm...why did Lim went into exile in London instead of Beijing,PRC or Moscow,USSR?[/quote]
British are magnanimous, and they give you benefit of the doubt - your country's politics are the business between you and your country/political oppoents/rivals.
They welcome you as long as you don't make trouble for Her Majesty and her Subjects.
And lately
- ever since NEW LABOR came into being -
if you are able to spend millions on properties in Chelsea, Kensington and elsewhere in the Metropolis.
London thus welcomes, regardless of their political backgrounds as long as they hadn't been anti-British/-British interests prior, all manner of FUGITIVES -
Thaksin, Berezovsky, etc, etc, etc, Goh Jin Thean (angmo huge organ-loving daughter of Goh Chok Tong's), etc, etc.
Thu 13 Nov 2008 7:24 PM
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Anonymous - Oh, let's be magnanimous & GRACIOUS
[quote]"Yes, I have been cheated too. My MP, the founding father of SDP, has been cheated by the author A Nation Cheated. Perhaps one day someone will write a book A SDP Cheated to put history in its proper perspective. If my MP was not hijacked and cheated of his baby, long ago the baby has grown to form the govt. Remember there were 4 SDP MPs and now what happened. Any hope for SDP?"[/quote]
Chiam See Tong - although he has tong'd for the longest time anyone can or bothers to recall - now is as good as a living dead.
He's so old and ill that when even Goh Chok Tong - the other Tong - made fun of his age, even though there's barely any difference in both ages, the ex-SDP Tong wouldn't raise a ruckus, couldn't.
So we all know Old Mr Chiam is so old and ill that he already has a foot in the casket, that he needs medical expenses and an inheritance for his kinsfolks after his death.
So he isn't raising any mre ruckuses in the House and in ublic - to safeguard his $22k monthly salary.
Let's please be a compassionate lot and let him earn his keep - and rest - in peace.
How can be cheated so easily?
First one not cheated is CSJ..
The other Singaporeans are also not stupid... I Not Stupid..
Where got conned?