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Thursday, 03 April 2008

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National University of Singapore (NUS) The Ridge magazine, a student union journal, has declined to publish an interview one of its writers did with Dr Chee Soon Juan.

Mr Kelvin Lim, a student reporter for The Ridge, wrote to Dr Chee in January this year for an interview for the magazine when the Singapore Democrats held its public forum on election reform.

We reproduce the unpublished interview below:


The Ridge: Are you satisfied with the turnout of the forum?

Dr Chee: Yes, I am. But organising a forum is the easiest thing to do in this process because it's not the number who turn up at a forum that is going to reform our election system. It's really those who dedicate themselves to the work in the months and years ahead that are ultimately going to mean whether we have free and fair elections or whether we continue to live in a one-party state.


The Ridge:
Do you think this forum has achieved the original intention of "kick-start a national effort to address and rectify an election system"?

Dr Chee: Whether the reform effort is ultimately successful or not depends on whether Singaporeans are willing to come forward and serve the cause. My role is to persuade and encourage Singaporeans, especially youths such as yourselves, to take up the challenge and push for change. The fastest way for anything to fail is for people to wait for other people to do the work.

We need leaders – real leaders, not those who call on others to make all the sacrifices and then demand that they be paid millions in salaries. We need Singaporeans who not only have the vision and foresight, but also those who have the guts to come out and fight for what they believe in.

For every 100 historians, researchers, analysts, and commentators, there is one activist out there with sweat on his brow, pushing the boundaries and working for change. It would be nice if the numbers were reversed.


The Ridge:
What are the immediate future plans after this forum?

Dr Chee: We have called for a meeting where we will make plans to form a committee, identify the tasks ahead, and assign work. If you or anyone of your readers are interested, please contact us at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it . Remember, it's our future and our nation that we are talking about. If we Singaporeans don't care, no one else will.


The Ridge:
By and large, the Singapore Democratic Party has not been very popular among Singaporeans. Being at the forefront of this movement, would you view this as an impediment?

Dr Chee: I remember talking with Kim Dae-jung in the 1990s when he had still not yet become the president of South Korea. Kim was imprisoned for six years for his role in fighting for democracy in Korea and had survived a couple of assassination attempts. He had lost several elections and at one point was very unpopular among his fellow citizens, especially those from other provinces. This was because the military government relentlessly painted him as one who was soft on the communists in North Korea. You needed a strong military government, albeit a dictatorial one, to stand up to the communist North, the generals said. A democracy would weaken South Korea and invite the North to invade. Kim said that it hurt him deeply when he fellow citizens criticized him but he believed in what he was doing and would not stop working for a democratic South Korea. He persevered and won his people over.

Similarly, democracy activists in Taiwan were unpopular during the martial law years. In Indonesia the opposition could muster no more than a quarter of the votes during the Suharto years. Yet when democratic change came, when free and fair elections were held, the tables turned.

When there is not a free media and when we don't have a free and fair election system, let us not just do what is popular. Instead, let us have the honesty and courage to do what is right. Popularity in an undemocratic system is like the wicked queen and her mirror on the wall. It is based on deception and vanity. This is what the situation with the PAP is. The opposition must not fall into the same trap. In truth it is not the lack of popularity that is an impediment to the reform of elections in Singapore, rather the craving of it.


The Ridge:
In the face of an apparent polarization of political views among opposition parties, do you think it is possible for reconciliation or compromise to a common ground?

Dr Chee: If you are referring to ideology or platform, it is perfectly all right for political parties, even those in the opposition camp, to differ. Problems of society (and their solutions) are too complex for things to be neatly compartmentalized into just two views: government or opposition.

But if you are talking about democratic change and reform of an unfair and unfree elections system, I don't understand why opposition parties cannot band together. Look at PAS and the DAP in Malaysia. There have very disparate ideologies and appeal to very different segments of the electorate. And yet when it came to the recent protest for free and fair elections, they were arm-in-arm.

It is to this end that the SDP will continue to reason with and persuade all opposition parties to see that in this one issue of electoral reform, we need to put aside our own interests and work together for the good of Singaporeans. Pride and prejudice will destroy not just our parties, but also Singapore.


The Ridge:
In your speech, you suggested raising awareness among university students, NGOs, academics as one of the concrete action towards election reform. However, would ordinary Singaporeans such as heart-landers be engaged in this process?

Dr Chee: Yes. How? Through university students, NGOs and academics. As I mentioned, Singaporeans need to stop waiting for others to make the change. The SDP can't do it alone. The committee that is going to be formed can't do it alone. What we need to do, and will do, is to get more Singaporeans to actively participate in the process. The operative word here is "actively."

If the people we meet say "Yes, I know its important that we reform our election system" and yet choose to do nothing while waiting for the next person to do the work, then we will be talking about change for a very long time. We need to reach out to the heartlanders, there is no doubt about that. But when I say "we" I don't just mean the SDP. Get on board and let's get busy.


The Ridge:
An incessant preoccupation with the financial pursuits has left most Singaporeans politically disengaged. How would you seek to convince the politically apathetic to be more interested or involved?

Dr Chee: By reaching out to those who are not. Change always comes from the minority – the thinking and engaged minority. It always has and always will. When we show leadership and courage, others will follow. I remember what Shih Ming-teh, a Taiwanese dissident jailed for 25 years who is now an influential political figure in Taiwan, once said:

"In every era, there are always those who will struggle for freedom. These people play a difficult role, their paths are paved with pain and loneliness. These freedom fighters plod along a narrow path. But in the end, those who follow will widen the path into a broad avenue."

Don't worry about the politically apathetic. Don't look at them and say if they're not interested, why should I do anything. Instead, take that first step even when others are either too afraid or seemingly apathetic. It's called leadership. You'll be surprised how many minds you will change from your act of courage and leadership.


The Ridge:
Finally, as a parting note, what do have to say to NUS students?

Dr Chee: My colleagues and I will be coming down to your campus as well as the campuses of the other universities. I hope to be able to talk to you about the reform effort and discuss with you about setting up a student campaign for electoral reform. Better yet, it would be good if one of your unions or clubs could organise a forum for us to discuss this. In the meantime, visit our website www.yoursdp.org to keep abreast of political matters in Singapore.

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Comments (26)
  • Edwin
    Good interview & good responses!

    I'm starting to like the new format of this website.

    It always interesting to come in here and read "the other side of the story".
  • mike Chan - Taking the easy way out.....self-censorship
    I doubt there was any order from the Govt to remove the "offending" interview-article. The NUS top shots did a total self-censorship to cover their backsides. These brainy academics took the easy way out as they must be aware of the ongoing suit taken out by Father&Son against the Far East Economic Review for a "similar" interview given by Dr CSJ just 2 years ago.
    Denial and the fear of facing the truth are what drive despots to censor, even completely, such hard copies.Never mind, I'm sure 99% of NUS students and staff have access to the Internet and can read this excellent interview in its uncensored entity.
    Democracy is at our door-steps now in the year 2008 ahead of the GE 2011....let's not miss the opportunity!
  • Paul Poh
    Lee Kuan Yew's lawsuits and threats has caused our academic institutions to function in fear.

    This has largely crippled the intellectual life in this country.
    NUS don't even have the balls to publish material featuring opposition parties.

    This is quite a sad and pathetic situation.

    Kudos to Lee Kuan Yew on that.
  • Gary Teoh
    Old Lee = Mugabe, if he loses the election, he will call in the military.
  • Lingshen Chen
    hi before everyone starts jumping to unfounded conclusions, the Ridge did publish this article here: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/ based on the above interview. My very humble learnings tell me that reporters will interview many people for an article, and not publishing the full interview transcripts hardly count as censorship. It's called journalism.
  • Johnny Lim
    Dear Lingshen,

    Hope I am not jumping to yet another unfounded conclusion but your link opens up to a blank page.
  • mike Chan - What about the hard-copy magazine Ridge?
    Mr L Chen, ref your comment above, may I know whether the abridged (not censored according to you) article was published in the hard copy magazine called The Ridge? From your statement, it looks like the shortened article was only posted to the ridgeonline. If this be the case, censorship as alleged by the Democrats is still correct as presumably the magazine is posted to all NUS students and staff but not the blog. In any case, NUS students in the know can always surf the SDP blog if they want to read the full unabridged artcle.I'm very sure those interested in S'pore politics in all our tertiary institutions not just NUS know the SDP website identity. Unless of course, Dr Chee was pre-informed that his interview would be jounalistically abridged and posted online in the e-Ridge but not published in the magazine itself.
  • Lingshen Chen
    the link i posted in my previous post seems to have a space inserted: there should not be a space at sdp-re form. very mystical online forces. here's the link again, i hope it turns out right: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/. My take is that just as an artist who paints a picture is not obliged to use up all the paint that was purchased, the reporter's article is about the forum. Why should the interview transcript be included? There were also other speakers at the forum; should their interview transcripts be included? And my take again: the Ridge as a magazine medium is published monthly so articles would have been written way before it is distributed so any news stories will lose its timeliness and so I don't see the printed version as being very news-oriented. The online portal remedies that; there really is no point in duplicating a story that has already lost its timeliness in print. My last take: I do agree that local media is heavily censored but it really is unfair to spill over this generalizations into this issue in this case; the reporter wrote an article on the Forum and of course material must be omitted, let alone lengthy interview transcripts.
  • Pseudonymity - Dear Lingshen Chen
    [quote=Lingshen Chen]hi before everyone starts jumping to unfounded conclusions, the Ridge did publish this article here: http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/02/04/sdp-reform-the-election-system/ based on the above interview. My very humble learnings tell me that reporters will interview many people for an article, and not publishing the full interview transcripts hardly count as censorship. It's called journalism.[/quote]

    If you read Kelvin's published article carefully, its based on the events at the forum and not based on the interview with Chee Soon Juan. Whatever Chee was reported to have said in Kelvin's published article was said at the forum.

    In any case, there have been past instances of censorship or self-censorship not only in NUS but also in Singapore in general when it comes to local politics. Especially journalism.
  • Dingo - re:
    [quote=Gary Teoh]Old Lee = Mugabe, if he loses the election, he will call in the military.[/quote]

    Or the private Gurkha battallion!
  • nus_student
    did anyone check with the school, the author or the ridge before making such an allegation?
  • nus_student
    i was reading through the transcript.. it's the same old csj rhetoric again. i'm not surprised why this didnt make it to publish -> boring. why should nus do free publicity for sdp and csj?
  • Kai Xiong - Free publicity?
    Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B)
  • Selene Cheng
    SDP, I used to write for The Ridge. A large part of the funding for The Ridge (money for printing) comes from the Powers That Be at the university.

    The editors have to think very carefully about what they publish because they do not control the purse strings. It is possible that the censorship was due to this reason.

    That being said, I have something to say in the editors' defence. I have written controversial Ridge articles before on overzealous Christian proselytizing, and also on the usage of swear words, and I've gotten published in The Ridge. So don't be so quick to judge.
  • Sylvester Lim - re: Free publicity?
    [quote=Kai Xiong]Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B)[/quote][quote=Selene Cheng]SDP, I used to write for The Ridge. A large part of the funding for The Ridge (money for printing) comes from the Powers That Be at the university.

    The editors have to think very carefully about what they publish because they do not control the purse strings. It is possible that the censorship was due to this reason.

    That being said, I have something to say in the editors' defence. I have written controversial Ridge articles before on overzealous Christian proselytizing, and also on the usage of swear words, and I've gotten published in The Ridge. So don't be so quick to judge.[/quote]

    Yep! SDP, Dr Chee, Freedom of Speech & Assembly are taboo subjects in democratic Singapore. Poor NUS students! The powers to be must have deemed that your minds have to be protected from evil thoughts. Censorship is censorship no matter what excuses or reasons you give.
  • Henry Windgates
    It's quite sad to see that even the NUS were also polluted by fear of lawsuits from the Lee family.

    What has our world come to?
  • wagingpeace
    Another demoralizing example of how Singapore's press freedom wasteland has crippled everyone with fear of getting sued.

    They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
    -Benjamin Franklin
  • Gary Teoh
    Our lame PM when he first took over, said that we need to have a inclusive, open society,but pap can't stand up to criticism,it will never change for the next 2 decades.The only way to change them is thru ballot box, but then again election dept. is under PM office,they may play cheat to hold on to power.
  • NUS Student - Come on sdp
    Get off your high horse no one owes your outdated rhetoric free publicity stop using LKY tactics. Why on earth do you expect an independent publication to be your mouthpiece????
  • nus
    hey the ridge is not a mouthpiece for sdp man.. dont expect nus to publish everything sdp says..
  • Dingo
    Actually, why not NUS invite Dr Chee for a talk? Then he would be able to communicate his ideas and no one has to debate on whether (or why) an article was not published.
  • LCC
    "The Ridge: Not a mouthpiece for SDP": [url]http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/the-ridge-not-a-mouthpiece-for-sdp/[/url]
  • Sylvester Lim - re:
    [quote=LCC]"The Ridge: Not a mouthpiece for SDP": [url]http://ridgeonline.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/the-ridge-not-a-mouthpiece-for-sdp/[/url][/quote]

    NUS is an institution of higher learning and supposely, the best of the best intellectuals. The people of Singapore must expect more from NUS students other than being 'complacent' book worms. Hopefully, as the future leaders of Singapore, young and with verve, as well as world wisely, you are able to see the shortcomings of our society and political system and make contributions to its improvements. You need to debate aggressively on our political system and look at how best it can be improved further. Just because the existing government tells you that they are the best in the world doesn't mean that it is. Politics will determine the type of life you and your children will live. As a parent myself, when I was young, I cowardly did not stand up to government and let the government ride rough shod over us with the changes to the constitution and gave up our civil rights. The changes now affect my child and me. Don't make the same mistakes and completely trust the government and politicians. Singaporeans need to demand more answers from our government and make them more accountable. We need to question their policies and stand our ground and be more vocal. SDP,WP, NSP are the only opposition parties in Singapore and many credible opposition members have literally been decimated by law suits. Unfortunately, our mainstream media practises self censorship as do most of our local medias and very seldom publishes alternative viewpoints unless it is from the ruling party. Does The Ridge practise this self censorship and if yes, why is there a need to do that in an institute of higher learning?
  • Singapore Democrats - The Ridge interview not part of research process
    http://yoursdp.org/component/content/article/1-singapore/367-ridge-interview-with-dr-chee-not-just-part-of-the-research-process
  • Anonymous
    Its sad that even NUS is under Lees control... :(
  • min xin - re: Free publicity?
    [quote=Kai Xiong]Yeah why give free publicity for a call to electoral reform. Everybody knows we have free and fair elections B)[/quote]

    Eww.. poor boy doesnt even know where he is living in, what kinda books he had been studying.
    Free and fair elections??? NEVER!! Unless PAP loses big time!
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