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Wednesday, 28 October 2009

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You would think that a Superintendent (Supt) of the police would be competent enough to get his story straight when testifying in a court of law. Apparently that's a myth in Singapore.

Supt Abdul Khalik, Head Investigations of the Central Police Division no less, contradicted himself and his subordinate so badly that he ended up being chastised by the Judge.

This happened when he took the stand in the on-going case in which Mr Gandhi Ambalam, Dr Chee Soon Juan and Ms Chee Siok Chin face charges for assembly without a permit when they distributed flyers at Raffles City in 2006.

At the centre of the dispute was the testimony of his assistant, Deputy Superintendent (DSP) William Goh, who had earlier said that on the day of the incident, 10 Sep 06, he had received a call from Mr Khalik.

Mr Goh said that his boss had told him that there was an illegal assembly taking place by SDP members at the Raffles City Shopping Centre near the City Hall MRT Station and that “Dr Chee and some others were involved.” Mr Goh was assigned as the investigating officer.

The call, Mr Goh told the court, came in at around 11 am. The funny thing was that the SDP leaders did not go to Raffles City until 12:30 pm.

Supt Khalik said that upon receiving the information he called Mr Goh to alert him and to assign him the duty. The time of the call? Between 9-10 am. Following the call, the Supt said that he did not speak with Mr Goh again until after the incident.

He also said that he did not tell Mr Goh during the call that there was an illegal assembly going on and that he did not name Dr Chee nor did he mention the location.

When questioned by Ms Chee about the contradiction with Mr Goh's testimony, Mr Khalik said flatly: “Mr Goh is mistaken.”

Dr Chee then probed further: “William Goh said that you called him and gave him this info. He said it twice, once when asked by Chee Siok Chin and again when I asked him during my cross-examination. Both times he said that you had given him the information.”

“My answer remains that he is mistaken,” Mr Khalik insisted.

Then came the fumble.

Under questioning by the DPP, Mr Khalik admitted that he, and not Mr Goh, could be mistaken.

Seizing on this Dr Chee asked during re-examination whether the Supt could have called his assistant only after the activity began at 12:30 pm.

“It is possible,” Mr Khalid conceded.

"What I'm trying to do is to rationalize..." he offered weakly, "I am only trying to rationalize based on the best of my memory."

This earned a warning from the Judge: "Your job as a witness is not to rationalize. It is to answer what you know. Leave the rationalizing to parties."

"Yes, sir," the Supt replied meekly.

“You are now saying that both events are possible meaning you could have called him early in the morning or you could have called him only in the afternoon after the activity began. Which is which?” Dr Chee enquired.

The officer conceded that both were possibilities but he could not remember which was which.

“But either way,” Dr Chee pointed out, “you are caught.”

If Mr Khalik had called DSP Goh in the morning before the activity began, the Supt could not have told Mr Goh about the details of the event. In other words, Mr Goh was lying on the stand.

If the Supt called the DSP only in the afternoon after the activity had started, then he was lying on the stand because he had earlier testified that he had called Mr Goh at around 9-10 am and that he had not communicated with the DSP thereafter.

Either way, the testimony of the two senior officers lay in shambles. Worse, one of them was lying under oath.

Such pathetic behaviour by the police is not an isolated incident. Several officers in this and other cases have been caught lying and contradicting each other. (See here and here, for example)

Plastered boldly across the Singapore police website is the rather audacious statement: "We are a police force that inspires the world." Maybe they should learn how to tell the truth first.

The hearing ended on 16 Oct 09. Parties will submit written closing submissions on 6 Nov and the verdict will be rendered in December.

 

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Comments (16)
  • BryanT - The Police can and will do better
    Some of us have never had the fortune (or rather it should be "misfortune") to have to question a policeman in court. So this circuitous technique seems a bit baffling at first glance.

    I suppose CSJ is attempting to ascertain the bumbling nature of the policemen, or maybe even the entire Police Force.

    But whether the policeman made the call to his colleague before or after 12.30pm seems immaterial to the fact that the group was gathered at Raffles City for some activity, as conceded in this article and probably in the court.

    The impression is that SDP is more interested in proving the ineptness of the Police Force than disproving their guilt of having done anything wrong.

    Perhaps the chain of thought goes this way : [b]since they realise they would be found guilty anyway, they might as well drag the Police Force's name through the dust as well.[/b]

    [b]I suppose the Police Force will learn a good lesson after the few rounds in court and enhance their effectiveness (and memory skills) when arresting politicians breaching laws such as the POA.[/b]
  • Newton Heath
    Bravo! First class police superintendent in a First world country. Majulah Singapurah!
  • AhKow - re: The Police can and will do better
    [quote=BryanT]
    ...
    The impression is that SDP is more interested in proving the ineptness of the Police Force than disproving their guilt of having done anything wrong.
    ...
    [/quote]

    Oh you mean like the way PAP nit pit on minor points than disapproving of their own guilty action.
  • seebeng - Flyering is an offence?
    Since when distributing flyers is an offence? Is it because SDP is involved that the police were sent to the location by their political masters to stop a legitimate activity?

    Is it not clear that the police officers are lying under oath to protect PAP's invisible hand in the whole affair?

    The group had gathered only after 12.30pm but deployment of a DSP was done before 10.00am, two and a half hours before the "offenders" were seen at the place. This certainly speaks volumes about the efficiency and impartiality of our police force!

    The entire state machinery is at the beck and call of a tyrant. The dictatorial PAP has no respect for rule of law.







  • NissanViP - Police Oath and Pledge is FAKE.
    Allow me to share my experiences about Police force deployment.

    I served in national service in Police Force as Inspector in the 80’s, Singapore police has a very clear and strict standing order as per Police motto and pledged.

    Every Police national servicemen and regular Police officer were deploy to cover HDB flats either by bicycle, foot, scooter, car or van, police officer also must conduct routine spot-check, as this will be recorded in the Police Log Sheet/Police Pocket Book.

    It is also part of SO “Standing Order” to conduct road block every night shift.

    We are to record our every movement in the police log sheet and pocket book.

    Sadly, now the police pledge and motto and deployment strategy are no longer served like before.

    In every police division, the Police manpower deployment always covers in the area like condominium and landed property.

    They have been instructed to patrol often and pay frequent visit to deter crime and to arrest anyone found loitering in the vicinity.

    If you lived in HDB flat, have you ever wonder why there isn’t any police car patrolling in your area, you may have spotted one police car per day, maybe not at all except in coffee shop/Food Court buying food, while most of the time they just zoom bypassing, and the Police post only operates at certain timing instead of 24 hours.

    The best part is, they can dedicate their time and manpower to harass harmless SDP in their movement.

    Seriously, senior Police officer should be put on trial for their action, and I can guarantee that this will lead to their mastermind in the process.

    You guess is correct – > LEE KUAN YEW.

    Since Singapore Police protects foreigner and the rich, we are at disadvantage at all times.

    They are out to silent us with arrest threat, to demolish our citizen rights as per our national pledge and they are to ensure that no matter what we think, we must obey to “Fake emperor” LEE KUAN YEW in his unfair/biased administration.

    Like many have said, damn....only the rich are protected.
  • maxchew - cops already knew abt the imminent sdp gathering
    supt khalik received the info abt sdp led by csj's imminent gathering at raffles city in the morning from his pol hq commander who recd said info from ISD or PolHQ Intelligence Unit. khalik must have called his dsp immed to forewarn him and to take preventive pro-active action....i.e. get the manpower and equipment (cameras etc) ready.
    Crime prevention is a top priority in the SPF (I was a cop for 21 years) and as far as the SPF top shots are concerned Dr CSJ and his ilk are all political criminals as inferred by their boss of bosses i.e. Emperor LKY aka Ah Pek Lee.....
  • Seelan Palay - re: The Police can and will do better
    [quote=BryanT]But whether the policeman made the call to his colleague before or after 12.30pm seems immaterial to the fact that the group was gathered at Raffles City for some activity, as conceded in this article and probably in the court.[/quote]

    Articles and arguments have already been made that the group was gathered to distribute flyers, which is the "some activity" you are referring to: [url]http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/2890-if-you-think-being-charged-for-qwalkingq-is-ridiculous[/url]

    Is distributing flyers civil disobedience? Does it contravene the law?

    But yes, please continue typing long and insensible replies.
  • BryanT - Overkill and Clumsiness
    "Is distributing flyers civil disobedience? Does it contravene the law?"

    Frankly, as a principle, no. That's unless the content of the flyers is racially and religiously inflammatory.

    But the charge is one of illegal assembly. Based on what can be culled here, [b]I think the police over-reacted and the charge is an overkill[/b] if the SDP members were simply "assembled" to distribute flyers.

    But the article is also heinous to make is sound as if the charge is one of flyer distribution.
  • seebeng - It's PAP fear
    The very fact that a case like this has gone to the court shows the "fear" of the authoritarian PAP towards its political opponents, who are gaining support from the ground.

    What is absurd is the police, the AGC and the judiciary have all been roped in to collude with a corrupt, tyrannical system to victimize genuine oppositionists on the ascendancy.

    Above all, the collusion of the MSM not to report this "laughable" case is most telling. It’s sycophancy at its worst.

    How long can the people be kept in ignorance by an autocratic system in this age and time?

  • BryanT - Two facets of fear
    I suppose "fear" can be seen from two perspectives.

    Firstly, seebeng is correct -- if SDP is seen as force that can be easily written off, the authorities may not even bother taking any actions. From the authority's perspective, if SDP is not tightly held in check, the "fear" is that the party's following will grow, or its audacity will increase. The message is for the SDP.

    Secondly, the laws have been so fine-tuned as tripwires that any incursions not acted upon devalues its underlying intent. In that sense, the action is to generate sufficient "fear" in others not to follow SDP and cross the line. This message is for the rest.

    [b]Having two perspectives does not absolved the authorities from being perceived as clumsy at times.[/b]
  • seebeng - It's not law but repression
    It's the "fear" of being toppled that has led the autocratic PAP to come up with repressive kneejerk responses against a growing opposition.

    The PAP calls it "law" when even one person is considered "illegal" assembly under its bizarre POA. This clearly shows the desperation of the PAP regime in its deathbed struggle.

    History is replete with instances of how dictators react to postpone their inevitable collapse.
  • Seelan Palay - re: Overkill and Clumsiness
    [quote=BryanT]But the article is also heinous to make is sound as if the charge is one of flyer distribution. [/quote]

    Whatever they were charged for, the fact remains that what they were doing was distributing flyers. Even the police admit it.

    The article is not being heinous, but honest. But of course, you [i]only[/i] see what you [i]want[/i] to see. If your preconceived notions blind you from fact, that's your choice.
  • BryanT - Target the correct target
    "Whatever they were charged for, the fact remains that what they were doing was distributing flyers. Even the police admit it."

    As I had said earlier,"I think the police over-reacted and the charge is an overkill if the SDP members were simply 'assembled' to distribute flyers." The "if" is key word.

    But if the Police is using some semantic technicality within the law to find something chargeable, I think it is abhorable.

    My message to SDP is this : The judge may eventually still agree with the prosecution and rule that some marginal clauses within the law was infringed despite SDP's effort to prove its illogic and absurdity.

    But SDP's tirade against the Police's clumsiness or nitwittedness in court does not help its current case or future "ventures". It does not detract from the authority's ability or intention to pick on legal fine-prints to bring SDP to court for similar acts. All that the ranting achieves is to impel the Police to be more effective in planning and executing its future sweeps.

    In fact, even if the policemen were blindly executing orders from their superiors, the exercise to prove how bungling they are as individuals (in front of their superiors) have created SDP a new set of enemies (and among the fellow officers). Even if they had personal sympathies for SDP's causes, you have just extinguished them.

    BTW, I think the lay Singaporeans generally still hold high regard for the Police Force. You can blame MSM for this impression, but you can't runaway from it.

    My advice to SDP is this : SDP's issues are with the policy makers and those on the higher echelons of the hierarchy, not the lower rung officers on the ground. Antagonism at that level is not necessary or helpful, and in fact, counterproductive
  • greyheyn
    The biggest evil in this world today is "self-interest, selfishness and greed". They are no friends or hidden friends of anyone with a sense of justice.

    The police think they can get away with anything including lying under oath, they think they are above the law.

    Trust in the police force is earned not given, no amount of spin doctoring can hide that. Sadly there aren't many who earn it.
  • seebeng - SP a lower rung officer?
    BryanT,

    Are you saying that a Superintendent is a lower rung officer?

    SDP is exposing the collusion of the police, the AGC and the judiciary with a regime that has no respect for rule of law.

    On the basis of "illogic and absurdity". the court, if it’s independent, should dismiss the case and give the benefit of doubt to the defendants who are political opponents to the ruling autocratic regime.

    The case has shown how far the PAP is prepared to go in perpetrating its corrupt system of paying its inept “yes” ministers millions of dollars in what it calls salary.

    No wonder the bootlicking media is silent about this court case.

    Don't you think you should direct your advice to the so-called MSM to report on this case to let Singaporeans know how organs of state are subverted by a regime bent on clinging to power?




  • compassion republican - Constitutional Rights
    Hello, Amercian Liberals judges do respect their Constitutional Rights. American Liberals judges don't invent new laws. (In America the Conservatives judges & Liberal judges are about equal in numbers) Did the COPS over react? Did the COPS read those flyers, they are protecting the interest of S'porean. This is Patriotism, dude
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