Singapore Democrats

[color=red]"Singaporeans will see that the presence of the Singapore Democrats is not limited to the Internet."[/color]

Good to see SDP recognise that it has to do more to reach the commoners. I hope the layman finds it more appealing than The New Paper though, because the latter is tough competition.

BTW, anyone knows whether scanned versions of the hardcopy "New Democrats" are available? Would be good to have a read here instead of trying to keep tab on the illusive SDP's sales-team's whereabout in the heartlands.

I must also give recognition to the fact that SDP's online presence and quality is probably higher than that of the other parties, at least among the opposition ones.

Since CSJ sees fit to dredge up the NKF trial as a preamble to justify its inability to sustain a newsletter, maybe we can provide a quote or two from Mr Ling How Doong, the erstwhile Chairman SDP. It would provide us with a valuable perspective on the vanishing act of the New Democrat over the last few years.

Leading up to the 2006 election, Ling noted press reports in which Dr Chee was described as running a "one-man show", adding: "[b]I can’t agree more.[/b]"

Mr Ling also said that [b]he disagreed with Dr Chee on "a lot of things", including the party newsletter[/b], which he had no hand in.

Asked whether he would quit the SDP or switch political parties if he was so unhappy, he said: "I’ve been standing for elections since 1984, and I’ve no reason to pack up because [b]someone made a boo-boo.[/b]"

Whether or how Mr Ling left the party is not important here, but at least we have an inside view of how things were run in SDP. Coming from someone who had previous switched allegiance from CST to CSJ, I don't thing we need to doubt how genuine those words of regret were.

I must say that your Omega Lee-style tactical smears are becoming increasingly annoying.

You said:

Re: [color=red]"Good to see SDP recognise that it has to do more to reach the commoners."[/color]

Hello? Putting aside the patronizing nature of your comment, did you actually [i]read[/i] the article, BryanT? Do you have problems with reading comprehension? An undiagnosed learning disability, perhaps?

It is not the SDP who has not realized what it needs to do; it is, always has been, and is continuing to be the PAP who is preventing all political parties - other than themselves - from doing the work that they are legally registered to do.

If as you say you are in semi-retirement right now, I wonder if your problem is more one of having developed an idle mind in your current less than full employment state; the idle mind is the devil's workshop, as they say.

Robox, thanks for your concerns about my learning ability (or disability) or reading comprehension. At the last check, my faculties were still broadly in place.

But I think that Omega would object to you tarnishing his reputation by making comparison with me, and vice-versa.

I'd rather suspect that perhaps you feel that too many people are stepping on your tail later, including those over at the Temasek Review.

BTW, one sees as much "smear" as one wants to. It's to do with the state of mind, you know.

[color=red]"If as you say you are semi-retirement right now, I wonder if your problem is more one of having developed an idle mind in your current less than full employment state; the idle mind is the devil's workshop, as they say."[/color]

Robox, btw, thanks for your interest in my semi-retirement mental state.

I realised the need to exercise the mind quite a while back, if not only to ward off Parkinson's. I find the mix of reading books (non-examinable) and staring at stock-market screens (hopefully profitable) sufficiently stimulating and rather fulfilling.

In fact, I've just finished Micheal Barr's "Lee Kuan Yew: The Beliefs Behind the Man". Quite a good read, especially the part on Arnold Toynbee's dictum about "challenge and response" and progressivism. Perhaps that's why Singaporeans have been posed with a continuous stream of challenges over the years.

Of course, engaging people in friendly discussions in quasi-political websites is also quite educational to me.

Ah Tee, everytime SDP talk about your masters you woof-woof. Why like that, one? I remember the old man also sue the printer and that's why SDP cannot print its newspapers. Why are you so jealous of the SDP's progress?

You can also quote Mr Ling's speech four years ago. Your memory really good. Either that or you have info provided for you. ;)

Mr Ling chairman of party had no hand in party newsletter? What kind of chairman is that?

Anyway where is Mr Ling now? His support in the SDP where ah? But Dr Chee shows photo of today's SDP members increasing and you still bring up Mr Ling 4 years ago! Only remind me of one thing: woof-woof!

It is really clear he is the "woof woof".He will not only bring out Ling's speech but also old issues like the MSM reporters who intend to sow discord among the oppositions.

Re: [color=red]"Robox, thanks for your concerns about my learning ability (or disability) or reading comprehension. At the last check, my faculties were still broadly in place."[/color]

It doesn't seem to be the case as evidenced by your initial comments on this thread.

Some substantiation in your own defence would increase your credibility.

I repeat what I wrote you in my post: "It is not the SDP who has not realized what it needs to do; it is, always has been, and is continuing to be the PAP who is preventing all political parties - other than themselves - from doing the work that they are legally registered to do."

What do you have to say now in your defence?

Re: [color=red]"I think that Omega would object to you tarnishing his reputation by making comparison with me, and vice-versa."[/color]

Omega "What Are Your (Purely Paper) Qualifications" Lee does not need any help from me or anyone else to tarnish his reputation; he did an incredibaly good job of it singlehandedly here.

In my opinion, [i]you[/i] do need to be concerned about your close ideological and strategic links with Omega Lee Kuan Yew.

Re: [color=red]"I'd rather suspect that perhaps you feel that too many people are stepping on your tail later, including those over at the Temasek Review."[/color]

Perhap you mean, "lately" and not "later".

Either way, you are wrong, and I'm quite sure that there are many people using this website alone who can vouch for that.

I started out in SBF, the harshest and most low crass of political environments that Singapore has ever seen; low crass politicking describes you, incidentally. Yet, I not only pulled through, I excelled as well.

Do yourself a favour and don't underestimate me.

Re: [color=red]"...one sees as much "smear" as one wants to. It's to do with the state of mind, you know."[/color]

Absolutely not!

You do deliberately make those smears, and you know it very well; just examine the [b]filth[/b] in your heart - if you even have a heart - and how that same filth informs the deliberate choice of what you write here.

There's a word for people like you: I won't use the word but it rhymes with "witch".

And never ever tell me about states of mind; I'm far more qualified to determine [i]your[/i] own fascist mental illness of [b]perennial spite[/b] (in return for the right remuneration, no less) than you of any imagined mental incapacity that I might have.

Do not let scum like BryanT or anyone else hijack this or any other thread.

Hijacking is a speciality of all fascists - still remember the religious fascists in the Aware saga - so that they can distract you from dealing with issues upfront; that's the basic dishonesty with ALL fascists.

Stick to the issues, or related ones, in any thread in this website.

Robox, I am disinclined to engage in a personal sling-match ala Omega or to figure out who cast the first stone - such does not matter to or interest me. I hope you don't mind me not joining in.

Have a good day.

[color=red]" Why are you so jealous of the SDP's progress?"[/color]

asoaso, thanks for taking the trouble to read my posting and commenting.

If you read clearly, I was not expressing any jealousy at all. In fact, with this issue of New Democrat, SDP is exactly where it was a few years back.

Some would call it back to square-one, after what a trained scout would call a round-turn-and-two-half-hitches, and a few expensive lawsuits. Frankly, it is not anything to be jealous over.

As to the possibility that you heard some woofing, could it be that some canines have smelled something gross?

PS. BTW, I was going to address you as "Mr Aso", but it is not my style to do name-calling or award nicknames to others. Besides, it sounds like an orifice sited among the deep recesses at the unfavoured end of the human body - not very polite and pleasant.

[color=red]"Do not let scum like BryanT or anyone else hijack this or any other thread."[/color]

Robox, in the days of modern technology and alternate media, is it not belittling the readers here to suspect that they can't decide what to believe or what to pay attention to?

I think it's a trifle patronising to have to resort to issue internet advisories. It sounds like what the MDA would do.

It's alright to me since I know the readers here can decide for themselves how to treat my comments, and I respect their decision even if they ignore what I write.

I just thought a website such as SDP's should be void of the [b]Thought Police[/b].

Hi Robox,

Stick to the issues, or related ones, in any thread in this website.

Agree 100% with you. Been reading your posts here regularly and I must say Singapore needs gifted & talented people like you to propel our country forward.

Many a times, you debated, countered, proposed your arguments with logic, substance and a good sense of humor.

Such rhetoric style is sorely missing from our 'CBL' MPs and their stooges.

The road to democracy in our tiny red dot has been and is certainly a long, arduous, stressful for SDP. But its quite an achievement thus far for SDP in spite of limited resources and against all odds.

It is my hope to see SDP inching slowly but surely to Parliament and perhaps vote for Dr Chee to be our next PM.

[color=blue]Good to see SDP recognise that it has to do more to reach the commoners.

[color=black]Publication was stopped when Mr Lee Kuan Yew and his son, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, sued the party and its executive members for defamation over an article we published.[/color]

Would be good to have a read here instead of trying to keep tab on the illusive SDP's sales-team's whereabout in the heartlands.[/color]

Hi BryanT...

If you are interested to grab a copy of our TND, please feel free to contact SDP and we can either mail you or tell you which area we will be for you to pick up a copy...

[color=red]"If you are interested to grab a copy of our TND, please feel free to contact SDP and we can either mail you or tell you which area we will be for you to pick up a copy..."[/color]

Jaslyn, thanks; I will do just that.

[quote]If you read clearly, I was not expressing any jealousy at all. In fact, with this issue of New Democrat, SDP is exactly where it was a few years back.

Some would call it back to square-one, after what a trained scout would call a round-turn-and-two-half-hitches, and a few expensive lawsuits. Frankly, it is not anything to be jealous over.[/quote]
After all the achievements that SDP and others have fought for Singapore, you say they are back to square one. You are simply just an idiot.

[color=red]"You are simply just an idiot."[/color]

quantum, I assume it's a rhetorical "you" that is being used to exemplify the world of idiocy that you face everyday. But idiocy abounds in this real world.

Anyway, in case you were too hasty in reading what I wrote and meant, let me explain to you, kind sir.

The SDP may not be at square-one.

The "others" have fought for Singapore may also not be at square-one.

But more relevantly, the publication itself (New Democrat) is the one I opined is back at square-one. But frankly, that is not the most important issue.

What is paramount is to determine who gave rise to the so-called "[b]boo-boo[/b]" (in the frank but boorish words of Ling How Doong) that led to the lawsuit. This by itself brought the SDP newspaper to dormancy for the last few years.

Perhaps the re-emergence of TND will spark a re-enactment of the whole hoopla, all over again. We shall observe with bated breath.

Alamak, Ah Tee, don't be so upset that I call you Ah Tee, its a polite term. You can call me Mr Aso if you like or even Mr Arsehole, I don't mind. But Ah Tee fits you well, don't you think?

Anyway Ah Tee, why are you talking about boo-boo. You all woof-woofs like to always make it seem that your masters are always right to sue and the people who get sued are always the ones to make mistake of defamation. Why you so clever one? You sure just because old fart say defamatory means its really defamatory?

You even so clever to quote Mr Ling, the guy who apologised to the old fart and then after that disappear from oppo politics, like hero.

But the guy who stand up to old fart in court and embarrassed him, you condemn. (sorry ok, but the old man really sounded like he had lup cheong in his mouth when he was questioned by Chee in court. lol) How can? You want to woof-woof must also have some class, don't be so obvious mah.

[color=red]"don't be so upset"[/color]

asoaso, on the contrary, I am not upset at all.

People like you and I who want to fart or woof around websites such as this must accept the fact that a small immature group will resort to name-calling and nicknaming.

We should just take them happily in our stride, and assume that such techniques are all that they can muster to disguise their lack of arguments to put across.

As to whether anyone got choked on chinese sausages when questioned by CSJ, I can't confirm the veracity of that observation because I was not there.

Perhaps you were lucky enough to be there to see it personally, or you received the impression from CSJ, the one who usually has many other things than chinese sausages in his mouth or to dispense.

I certainly would not call him an unbiased observer of gagging sausages and sometimes only the gullible will believe unflinchingly in what he sells or spouts.

[quote=BryanT]Since CSJ sees fit to dredge up the NKF trial as a preamble to justify its inability to sustain a newsletter, maybe we can provide a quote or two from Mr Ling How Doong, the erstwhile Chairman SDP.[/quote]

You uses the pronoun "WE", so are "you" actually consisting of a group of people? or you are so pompous that you feel you should speak like a royalty? By the way, since you are so active in providing your point of view towards in this website, I am sure you also have plenty to say pertaining to that of PAP too right? So have you actively written to the PAP websites or blogs in similar fashion?

Congratulation on the re-publication of the New Democrats.

[b]I am very impressed by SDP's resilience.[/b]

May I suggest SDP to make a video on this piece of great news with interviews, etc etc. In its next publication, maybe SDP can include more micro issues like rising costs of public transport. You touch on bread-and-butter issues, you get the layman's vote.

What happened to SDP's podcasts? I remember them being banned by PAP in 2006. Bring them back!

Btw, I enjoy reading BryanT's comments. He shares SDP's belief of freedom of speech & expression.

Re: [color=red]"Robox, in the days of modern technology and alternate media, is it not belittling the readers here to suspect that they can't decide what to believe or what to pay attention to?"

[color=black]It's odd that a statement like the one above can be made by someone who constantly berates and belittles the readers here by referring to us as the SDP's 'ra-ra' - it's rah-rah, btw - crowd

I don't belittle readers' ability to make decisions for themselves based on what they read. But I object vehemently to [i]your[/i] repeated and unwarranted personal attacks, particularly against Dr Chee and all borne of your inverted logic. Note: the key words here are "repeated" and "unwarranted", because that's what constitutes harassment and harassment is a form of abuse.

We already know how you feel about Dr Chee and certain political methods. But you only need to express those views just once, and only when it is relevant to the thread, and then be done with it. But with you it keeps coming up again and again; it's nothing short of harassment, not only of the personality that you target, but of me as a reader here.

As a reader, I have a right to my comfort here.

Please remember that this website is not paid for by the public coffers but by private donations. As the owner of this private property, the SDP should be able to make decisions against any errant reader. (I'm not surprised that Gopalan Nair doesn't consider your comments worthy of the being called free speech and will not publish your toxic statements.)

This website is not your personal dartboard and plaything for you to keep throwing your poison darts at.

Website admin can make any decision it wants against any reader it wishes; you have not paid any money to have unfetterred rights to this website.

If the SDP wishes to lose its legitimate readership by continuing allowing harassers and abusers like yourself to keep harassing its readers, it's a decision that they can make.

The onus is every bit on you to conduct yourself respectfully towards other users

Re:[/color] "I think it's a trifle patronising to have to resort to issue internet advisories. It sounds like what the MDA would do.I just thought a website such as SDP's should be void of the Thought Police."[/color]

Herein lies an illustration of exactly what I mean when I say you go inserting your opportunistic poison barbs against the SDP when they had absolutely nothing to do with issuing any advisory.

Get this fact straight: [b]I[/b] wrote that 'advisory', and I am not a member of the SDP and much less the web administrator.

With your political upbringing under Lee Kuan Yew, I am not surprised that you would consider "free speech" to be a free-for-all punch up. It's not. Free speech is a problem solving tool, and unless you can show me how your harassment here contributes towards solving any problem that you imagine exists, I am not backing down from my stand.

Thank you for your generous compliments; I didn't realize that any humor that I might have used was significant enough to warrant a mention by anyone.

I tried figuring out what "CBL" might mean but have given up. Care to elucidate?

[i]PS Hope to see more of your posts here.[/i]

dei, people, dun be so personal lah...
wat for...

all this arguing ain't getting us anywhere closer to a more democratic society, yah?

i say, juz tahan for the time being, wait till son steps down, prevent the grandson from getting home and VIOLA! we have a "brand" new govt!

yah, pls, I've said, just get rid of the retard grandson, pls!!!!


BrayNT, how? u confident not? for ur powerful english, large recess of time available, ur logical logic.. u wanna run for govt?

[color=red]"I have a right to my comfort here."[/color]

Robox, I have so many things to say about your last posting, but I resist the temptation. I know, it's quite un-me.

Instead, I come offering a scraggy olive branch and a link to some wise words.

http://www.investmentpostcards.com/2009/09/21/something-we-should-all-read-at-least-once-a-week/

There's an appropriate one for all occasions and I think the relevant ones here currently are : 4 and 6.

Take a pick or two too.

[color=red]"So have you actively written to the PAP websites or blogs in similar fashion?"[/color]

G_Chen, thanks you for your interest in my postings.

I apologise for the faux pas in the rather jarring usage of the word "we"; I must have been hallucinating about the glum, crumpled paper-bag face of Elizabeth II with her "annus horribilis" ruminations.

Any yes, I do my bit in throwing a few jabs and broad swipes at the other side of the fence as well. That includes the websites, occasion letters to the MSM, Reach and Cut Waste Panel, all to keep them on their toes.

The LTA and MOM are the current favourite punching bags. Of course, a few occasional letters to the MPs and ministers directly to remind them of our plebeian existence were also helpful.

Aren't we glad to hear that the privilege is not solely SDP's.

Oops, did we just use "we" again?

[color=red]"dei, people, dun be so personal lah..."[/color]

juzONEsingh, glad to see you back. You are right : there's absolutely no need to get personal. Hence I thought an olive branch would serve us well.

I think I'd refrain from words such as "get rid of". It sounds so KGB-ish.... if not ISA-ish. I don't think the next generation of the Lees would post a threat to CSJ's aspirations.

You might have heard of the 3rd Generation Curse : wealth does not last three generations.

I would have to disappoint you. As I had told you, my definition of good life revolves around a good book and a stock-market screen with lots of black-ink (not red).

Running for government sounds like something rather taxing on the heart and towards an endline where people are gathered ready to pelt their eggs.

BTW, there is a slight error in your spelling of my name. "BrayNT" is perhaps more closely related to "WindowsNT".

BrayNT, yeah, i suppose u have a point.. ultimately, in the long run equilibirum, clever people won't choose to run for govt... they would rather run for the CEO positions like Citibank, or the Dubai Soverign Fund, etc etc...

that leave the average pple like u and me to try and impose our dreams of an ideal society...

funny how life turns out, eh?

anyway, yeah, re-launching the New Democract is a healthy activity, if i may say so... good that the citizen has more options to read n choose from...

Because he was working as a translator for the Asian Axis during WWII, while Queen E had to endure non stop bombing and wartime conditions from the European Axis. Maybe this is what someone considers his "NS".

Since Robox has been commenting with some regularity not just in Singapore Democrats but in other forums as well, would he or she be so kind to reveal his/her identity (or at least with an out in the open agenda) and come up with a blog like Mr Brown, Yawning Bread, Mr Ng E Jay etc.

My own personal agenda is very simple: eliminate "civil service" welfarism and power, a similar struggle that Japan's new government faces with the many mini "LKYs" in their bureaucracy.

I can honestly say that I am neither employed by the SDP or PAP to post online comments one way or another, nor am I a SDP party member as of yet. I hope others can state this clearly of their own conscience. Omega Lee is a pseudonym.

Omega Lee, stop ur crap lah, walau, people who access this webby are either serious SDP supporters or big time PAP-cheerleaders or just like me n my shit-stirring pal, BraynT --> we're just curious, nothing-better-to-do folks, practising our english...

Re: [color=red]"Since Robox has been commenting with some regularity not just in Singapore Democrats but in other forums as well, would he or she be so kind to reveal his/her identity (or at least with an out in the open agenda) and come up with a blog like Mr Brown, Yawning Bread, Mr Ng E Jay etc."[/color]

No, I will not be so kind as to accede to any request just because you made it. (How much are you offering me to do it, anyway? I ask because you are unlikely to be able to afford it.) I am asking to you to give me full justification for your request first.

1. How does my posting with any regularity here and/or elsewhere oblige me to reveal my identity to you or anyone else?

2. How does my posting with any regularity here or elsewhere oblige me to write a blog. (If I did, I would be very stringent with free speech abusers, just so you know.)

3. Tell me in very explicit terms what you intend to do with my personal information (ie. my identity) once you know it.

Re: [color=red]"...people, dun be so personal lah..."[/color]

That was exactly the point that I was making to BryanT.

Hi Robox,

Sorry for late reply! The term 'CBL' comes from Hokkien dialect, is very often used in 'Hokkien vulgarity' form, defining someone as 'Cho Bo Lan', literally means 'useless', 'unproductive',
'incompetent'.....

I seriously do not know what my MP has done or is doing to improve the residents lives in the estate that I live. All I know is the so-called once a month Meet-The-People session didn't exactly addressed the majority residents concerns.

We can start a separate topic here talking about how 'efficient, caring',these MPs have been (whom I didn't get the decent chance to vote for them in the first place) in their service to the residents.

Anyway, enough of side-tracking. Congrats SDP on the re-launch of The New Democrat. Hope the new MITA chief likes it!

AN, i can empthatise with u!

My MP, Dr THP, he's MIA for ages! since the last erection, yah?
gosh!

wonder will he STAND again for the next erection?

juzONEsingh,

Hi, majority of PAP candidates (especially those who are sheltered under the GRC ticket) do not contest elections on a level playing field.

I don't have any respect for such candidates, regardless of their academia background and standing in society simply because of the way LKY 'engineered' the entire election process.

These new candidates simply whisked their ways into Parliament without having to fight or contest the opposition candidates. They do not have 'battleground experience' and therefore are not qualified to represent us.

Imagine if our election system is such that we have 28 districts and therefore all 28 districts are being contested under Single Ward Constituency, this system is a better way to gauge a Party's representation and thus will provide a much more level playing field to all candidates.

Voters then, in my opinion, will see a more fiercely contest amongst all parties contesting in every single wards.

Such system will put all candidates to better scrutiny and eventually every single ward will get better representation from their MP.

Then again, do you think PAP is man enough to fight/battle in such a system? I bet my last dollar that they won't, simply because they will lose and lose miserably!!!! They are such cowards when it comes to gentlemen fights.

As long as the election system is being 'engineered' by LKY at his whims and fancies, we can forget about defeating them gentlemanly.

[quote=BryanT]
Oops, did we just use "we" again?[/quote]

Well, then I guess you must be truly pompous then..opps.

As for your reply to my question "So have you actively written to the PAP websites or blogs in similar fashion?", you mentioned that you did throw "a few jabs and broad swipes...includes the websites..." May I ask which PAP website you posted to?

G-Chen, how'da? You expect BrayNt to ans your chim qn?

Which PAP webby? even my kneecap can give you a direct answer, man...

G_Chen, morning!

Since you asked : Young PAP and P65 (before the neophyte MPs "ran road").

I must also comment that pap.org.sg website is not as discussion friendly as SDP's. In fact, it's quite terrible. So kudos SDP on this count.

Well, I concede that my words might come across once in a while as pompous, but I think it's due to my limited language abilities. As Boxer said," I will work harder." And by the way, I don't think Napoleon was always right.

[color=red]"even my kneecap can give you a direct answer, man..."[/color]

juzONEsingh, good morning!

Wah, I didn't know your kneecap is so talented. It's alright, I won't trouble your talking kneecap, and have replied directly, provided the posting does not disappear (again).

PS. SDP website admin, I know (for sure) you guys don't practice censorship, but have you seen a few waylaid postings running loose and gotten lost along the way? BTW, keep up the good (but laborious) job.

I agree a presence in the general public offline is traditional way of reaching out and might seem oldish. So what!...it is effective and a great fund raiser.

Man!
Have to give it to him.
He is good.
A master of sarcasm. A real artist.
The best that 'they' can offer, so far.
Still, better him than those previous 'barkers'.

Till to date, I am still following you. Your time spend well or should I say, you enjoy doing your job as per assigned and that is why you have to be here to swing any negative views about SG Government.

May I suggest (as you are presenting on behalf of PAP), it will be good not to use grand word to retaliate in your reply.

I don't usually enjoy using grand english, preferably not especially engaging in an open forum. Everyone regardless of their english rating or capability will understand better.

But I will use it when engaging in signing contracts agreement.

In simple term, speak good english doesn't mean english need to be perfect.

Government often speak english with intention to confuse less english educated people.

Unfortunately, bryanT, you are one of (PAP) them.

As I wanted to say so much about you and your objective in protecting government activity, you can never achieve to confuse readers when situation has already proven to suffocate singaporean living.

Singaporean knows as much as Government already expected in the next GE, PAP will be losing many seats (may not all, but enough to outnumber PAP), therefore LKY has planned well by opening the ICA department to be flooded, and hoping these "dirt" become citizen to subdue negative voting numbers.

However LKY did mentioned about mobilize SAF military, he intend to use military action if the vote against him.

I am waiting for that day come, and I (many others) will not standing by to get hurt from LKY military action.

Hi BryanT,

Thanks for replying. Well actually the reason why I ask is because since approx 1 mth back I started visiting the P65 blog and saw regulars like sgcynic, tan sm, even andrew loh etc, but somehow did not recall seeing your post. As for PAP websites and young PAP websites, somehow I could not seem to locate any forum in them so I gave up searching.

Anyway, I personally do not find P65 blog interesting or enlightening.

[quote=BryanT][color=red]"even my kneecap can give you a direct answer, man..."[/color]

PS. SDP website admin, I know (for sure) you guys don't practice censorship, but have you seen a few waylaid postings running loose and gotten lost along the way? BTW, keep up the good (but laborious) job.[/quote]

BryanT,

You are the best manifestation of an almost non-existent of censorship here.

I can understand that things can run along fine and then a moral panic against something occurs.

Obviously you have given an impression that you want to have some degree of protection/censorship from the website admin. Opponents of censorship could argue it’s about freedom of speech.

Balancing those two objectives is what difficult question of this kind have to be about.

As the parameters of censorship are constantly changing, I would suggest to maintain the status quo.

NissanViP, dei, u're too serious lah..
relaxz lah...

u beat 1 BrayNt, so wat? dere's still lots of loyal dogs running around mah..

u know y the number of loyal dogs keep increasing? coz they're holding Balls-lerships mah...

[color=red]"You are the best manifestation of an almost non-existent of censorship here....I can understand that things can run along fine and then a moral panic against something occurs."[/color]

greyheyn, sorry I really lost you there... seriously.

Ermmm...I am exercising censorship? And what's with the "moral panic" part?

Sorry lah, tak paham lah. Can explain?

[quote]I find the mix of reading books (non-examinable) and staring at stock-market screens (hopefully profitable) sufficiently stimulating and rather fulfilling.
In fact, I've just finished Micheal Barr's "Lee Kuan Yew: The Beliefs Behind the Man".[/quote]
Well Brayin'T, you sure are a person of many talents. Not only do you claim to be making hay in the stock markets with one hand while turning the pages of Barr's ripping yarn with the other, but you also manage to monitor the SDP web site with a third appendage to toss off 2 cents worth of spiteful comment (Robox's term, don't blame me) for every new article that appears!

Keep it up. You are an outstanding example to lazy pensioners everywhere it has to be said - if only S'porean retirees were lucky enough to receive pensions, that is. It wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that you're also flogging penile enhancement pills as a sideline in between swatting critical posts and pressing the page refresh button.

Might I be so bold as to recommend Barr's new book [i][b]"Paths Not Taken: Political Pluralism in Post-War Singapore"?[/b][/i] He says,

[i]"...In most countries, one or another of the local ‘contenders’ grabbed the brass ring of power and scooped up all the marbles of state control. They demanded international recognition and turned around to bring the revolution to a halt. Censorship was re-introduced. [u]Dissent was stifled[/u]. Opposition or alternative political parties were suppressed as one group or party took control of each state. Labour unions were emasculated and the political aspirations of minorities, particularly the Chinese, were quashed. In many cases the state became barely distinguishable from the personality or the party of the political leadership..." [/i]

What a naughty chap, should be sued for defamation. Now would that book be a fitting prequel for the upcoming bestseller, [i][b]"Lee Kuan Yew: My Part In His Downfall"[/b][/i] by Chee Soon Juan with foreword by Aung San Suu Kyi, do you think?

[color=red]"u beat 1 BrayNt, so wat? dere's still lots of loyal dogs running around mah.."[/color]

juzONEsingh, dei, don't liddat lei. I'd rather that you don't put my name (mispelled again hor) in the same sentence as "loyal dogs".

When I last checked, my loyalty was not of the canine type. I know, because I only say my prayers to the stock market.

Of course, I reserve comments (again) on the Ballership thingy - since I'd rather not deal with testicular objects in a forum.

bRaynT, somehow, i suspect dat u were once a Balls-lerhsip holder...

i dun noe... do u feel indebted to the govt? for ur free study? for ur free prestige?

dun swallow too much, pal... ain't good for ur intestines...

If Govt-PAP can push its limit, the more the reason they need to be cripple regardless of numbers of dog barking aimlessly.

If I have to swing these PAP "dead-brain" BryanT alike, it won't stop me to put the dead brain to sleep for good.

[quote]"If I have to swing these PAP "dead-brain" BryanT alike"[/quote]

juzONEsingh, can help answer our dear NissanViP once more?

I am refraining from answering for a good reason : I can't really understand the "cripple" and "swinging" parts, and if I interpret wrongly, I get accused of doing the twist again. Very troublesome.

Tolong boleh?