Singapore Democrats

Yet another worst case of injustices by the social conservative government and it's ruling party PAP.

So, is it a morally upright thing to expel a worker who's fighting for democracy in his own home country? I wonder. And looking on the bright side, I suppose I have no need to worry a thing about contravening "public morals" here because guess what? There aren't any morals here in the Singaporean society at all! All the PAPees can think of is money, money and lots of money, nothing more.

What's wrong with that ? Without money, how can one survive in Singapore ?

What is SDP doing to help the needy in Singapore ?

By holding protests, marches and rallies ?

By organizing stupid countdowns ?

By wasting public resources to stay in Queenstown chalet ?

Kangaroos everywhere sia. No need to go australia liao.

If foreigners want to come here and work, to contribute, fine. But they keep their troubles at home. Even a protest with peaceful intent can easily go wrong. The Police will have to commit resources to monitor the protest. This cannot be our burden to bare. Image if every nationality working here wants to protest some domestic issue (yes, that would put a smile on CSJ's face). Once again, SDP makes its stand clear - it is wants hardworking foreigners out (Singaporeans first!) but wants to keep foreign protesters. Go get yourselves some real jobs, SDP! Protesting, unfortunately, does not qualify as work.

I advise them to seek political assylum in Canada or the USA.

Since they have their passport and are still in Singapore as PR they should be able to visit Canada without visa or even if they need a visa, they can obtain it quite easily bec. they are not in Singapore as PR.

Do it now or else once they reach Burma, they will not be able to get out ... just watch the show "Rambo" will refresh your memory on how cruel the Burmese regime can be.

This is against humanitarian and democractic ideals. The reason given by WKS for not extending their work passes (after having been granted for the past more than ten years) are against values based on respect for the equality, worth, and dignity of all people. On one hand, the government is wanting to have more foreign workers work here to help with the local economy and have been urging Singaporeans to learn how to live in harmony with our foreign counterparts while on the other hand, this action by the MOM is contrary to value of social inclusion.

This episode seems to be a discrimination towards a selected few. Like what the PAP government often said, foreign workers are needed and we must include them. They have been working here for more than a decade had contributed to the Singapore economy for long. How can we at the same time said in words expressing that we must treasure their engagement with us while at the same time as well, discriminate them? This is not consistent.

We should also not fall into the fallacy of capturing the extremes to generalise. The fallacy is such that lobbying and protesting will always led to something going wrong. Why not use other examples where many social action, such as a group of hundreds of foreign domestic workers in HK recently gathered together and protested against a pay rise rise of only USD12.80 per month awarded to them by the HK government. It did not lead to anything wrong. There are also many other examples. The recent HK civil groups which gathered to protest against the DBS were also in throngs...nothing went wrong. They are all peaceful protests and part of social action, civil activism and non-violent action. To say that we must give up our birth rights and basic rights as citizens to gather as a civil society to lobby against unfair policies etc, just because there might be a slight chance of something "going wrong", it is too big a price for us to pay with. The price of our basic birth rights and civil rights. These rights are our life lines. If we willingly offer up these life lines, and at the end, we find our life at stake (casting a scenario: old age, unable to work, can't draw out CPF, not enough money for food/shelter), then it will be too late cos the life lines have been given up sometime somewhere.

It is sad that as a "first world" nation, Sinapore does not have and will not encompass a vibrant civil society.

Jacys, can't you see that helping the needy in the way which you seem to suggest in your posting is just going to be a short term solution?

Let me explain using a common medical analogy - you are simply dealing with the symptoms and not the root cause of the ailment.

The needy are what they are today largely due to the flawed process through which national policies and decisions are made here in Singapore.

To effectively deal with the problem of the needy, we need to right the flawed process and Democracy, as champions by the Singapore Democratic Party, is most apt in supplanting the flawed process.

Since according to you SDP is most apt in "supplanting the flawed process", then how can you explain the transformation of SDP as the largest opposition party in Singapore to the smallest one in just a decade ?

Its share of votes of 23% is the lowest of all parties in the last GE while WP garner the second highest.

This shows that Singaporeans still prefer the moderate, break-and-butter approach of the Workers' Party than the senseless confrontational tactics of SDP.

Agnes Chia:


LKY can smell the coffin and sissy Loong knows his political days are numbered. Short a#* One Can't Sing is a useless short a#*...no personality and ability.

Never believe anything the PAP says. The said they are looking for new blood for leaders...that is provided the leaders must not dig into their secret affairs.


With due respect to all old men but would you let a 85 year-old man handle all your retirement monies and give up your rights to ask him how and where he invested your money?

It blows my mind off when Singaporeans are not allowed to know precisely how much money are there in the GIC CPF funds and how it is invested. What's more the vice-Chairman (perhaps in-charge of "vice") of the GIC is the Chairman's son. And the account is not audited by independent auditors.


Moreover Temasek Holding is run by the dauhter-in-law.

If this is not conflict of interest then what is?

PAP keeps telling Singaporeans and the world that the little red dot cannot afford to have the "western type" of democracy. But wait a second, what Dr Chee and his gang fighting for are just two words: "Transparency" and "Accountablity". It is neither western nor eastern democracy but just some decent and resonable responsiblity of any government.

Shame on Lee CULT You and sissy Loong...all they can do is sue its own people, put them to jail and deport like-minded foreigners.

To me Singapore is like a corrupted brain washing CULT in a Holloywood horror film.

Please don't bring out Hong Kong; the more you compare the more heart pain you have. To compare Hong Kong with Singapore is an insult to Hong Kong...like comparing a gentleman with a killer rapist gangster.

Compare apple with apple...ZimbaBEE or Cuba would be a more level comparison.

I wish Lee Cult You the best of health for 2009 and may the new year be his FINAL year alive.

If the burmese have broken any law, please bring them to court. If not, is it right of the Government to use administrative power? There is a risk that this method would result in a nation where the Government could act above the law.

Because the SDP is the most confrontational party we have, it naturally bears the brunt of the the media's (which is the PAP's monopoly) spreading of malicious lies since it is the SDP, and not milder parties like the WP, that presents a threat to the ruling power. With the media constantly targetting the SDP, many Singaporeans are forming negative impressions of the party and thus favour the more "moderate" parties. But being "moderate" isn't going to solve anything because if you lack combativeness, you're gonna be nothing more than a doormat of the PAP's.

Actually, I'm vaguely surprised that I didn't see this news on the state-owned newspaper Straits Times or even in Channel NewsAsia!

Which brings me back in thoughts to what my friend on YouTube once said, "Censorship is the tool of cowards".

[quote=jacys]Since according to you SDP is most apt in "supplanting the flawed process",....[/quote]

Jacys, i'm afraid you have misread my previous posting. The subject of the last sentence in my previous posting is DEMOCRACY.

i do apologise for the confusion.