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what is this Kangaroo University doing in Singapore? Want to earn our $$$ right? Somemore hire Kangaroo lecturers like John Tan.

James Cook Uni.... omg... I rather my son not go to uni then study at this........

Hang in there John, everything will be alright because you're on the side of truth.

What is so harmful with/about Freedom Of Speech?
Is there something wrong with 'them' that no one can be able to speak up? Are they afraid that with freedom of speech, people will exchange their views and come to the conclusion that something is indeed wrong? Isn't it obvious??

If streetwise psychologist like me (self-acclaimed - hehe :P) can easily read 'those' people who tried to silent anyone who are not afraid to speak up... what do you think about the capability of certified professionals??

And much to my amusement, 'those' people didn't even imagine that the world is round with billions of other humans... and millions of educated ones too. 'Those people' I'd say, are infact SHAMELESS people.

Mine is from small matters but I have always get the bigger picture only after I've freed myself by reading REAL news. This is called, the success in bringing up awareness among us. Thanx again SDP. I can see how biased it can be when it comes to politics.

They are making more and more mistakes themselves by helping to show the citizens how they had acted against normal citizens who simply wants a change in policies. Now with all these unhealthy charges against common people, I think more and more citizens wants more oppositions on Parliament seats. And if that is not possible, the more people will be aware that we have an iron fist who wants everything on his own although he knows that he does not have a world's brain!! Of which, might as well change the government because the current one is not sensitive at all to citizens' voice.

AnnA

Ironically, if you read JCU's Statement of Strategic Intent - http://www.jcu.edu.au/office/vc/idc/groups/public/documents/overview/jcuprd_032019.pdf

It shows that the leasdership at JCU does not believe in what it proclaims. How sad and unauthentic.

Furthermore, for all the research that JCU claims it does, it can't even find out who Colin Lim is.

What an "enlightened" institution.

SDP is asking the obvious. Employees should know that they are part of the organisation that they work in and their criminal actions would tarnish the organisation's image and reputation that has taken so long to build.

It is disgraceful that John Tan and the SDP chose to politicise this issue as an academic and as a party. By making use of education and the school, John Tan should be given the boot.

[b]Since he likes to emulate CSJ, it is only fair and consistent to bankrupt John Tan as well. Otherwise, people will scold the kangaroo regime of double-standards.

The idiot govt is trying to tell people that it is fair to CSJ.[/b]

I simply have no respect for the Singapore education system...they learn shit.

This very act shows proves beyond doubt that LKY and cance Loong are all out to destroy people of differ ideas.

Go to hell LKY and cancer
Loong and

[color=red][b]LEE REGIME BIGGEST BULLY IN SINKAPORE![/b][/color]

This must be the result of "mentoring" by our MM. The PAP "old guard"'s style had been to effect its punishing of persons they thought were troublesome by requiring establishments concerned to dismiss them, seemingly on their own initiative.

And the compliance of the "Australian university" is hardly surprising in itself. "Westerners" who need to come here to make a living include those who could not get a similar position back home. Those are what Goh Keng Swee once described as "second-raters" who were "good enough" for talent-scarce Singapore. And they have been known to be absolutely subservient and beholden to the establishment, like those whitemen who used to carry Idi Amin's sedan chair.

What is surprising is the naively open manner they have gone about executing their orders, rendering it very evident the reason for John Tan's dismissal, and thereby embarrassing rather than pleasing our MM.

From beneath the abject subservience, some honesty seeps up. Coming from a higher moral culture, they are not used to insidious "cloak and dagger" sort of behind-the-scene operations.

A Singaporean establishment would have made the sacking seem unconnected with John Tan's political activity, just like the way Chee Soon Juan was sacked and sued by our local university.

I applaud JCU for its decision to suspend John Tan who has been creating trouble for the government for the past 1 year together with Dr Chee.

In fact, he should be sacked as his continued presence as a lecturer will be a bad influence on his students some of whom may be psychoed by him to take part in the illegal TBT activities.

Dear John....Pls don't give up.Your believes and courage will surely open many more eyes.We all know that fighting for Justice is not easy especially in the land of Injustice, like singapore. But if we are the true believers, nothing will really matter.

Has anybody realized that it's because of brave people like Mr John Tan, people can now stage protests, though it may seem minuscule and controlled.

The DBS/Lehmans deal would have gone much more sour if those angry investors did not voice their concerns at the speakers corner. That's a fact.

Sg is a business-centric country, and in business, if you don't ask for what you want, you will never get it. A wise person would know how much he looses out in the game if he just stands around agreeing to everyone. I've learnt this lesson all too well doing business, and I'm very very sure I'm not the only fellow who knows about the weakness of being passive.

That's the fundamental difference in my opinion between SG and HK. IN Hong Kong most people don't sit around all day waiting for handouts. They take action.
And sadly I feel that's why that country will always have an edge over this one.

Anyway, it's too bad the media is half asleep and can't be bothered to see the changes, but I won't be fooled. I see the gradual improvements in Singapore's freedom of expression, and I think that SDP and the people involved did a great and noble thing for this country.

Thank you, and don't give up.

Make you wonder why WP's Sylvia Lim is still teaching at Temasek Poly.

The school's administration even changed their rules to allow her to stand for elections.

[quote]Make you wonder why WP's Sylvia Lim is still teaching at Temasek Poly.

The school's administration even changed their rules to allow her to stand for elections.[/quote]


Why the wonder?

Lee said as much before: "These (Chiam, Low) are GOOD opposition."

With the draconian rules - and tricks - governing Singapore politics, there should only be a House comprising ALL PAP Members!

But why persistently these two?

For show to the world-at-large - "We are a democracy, not some Kim state or Saddam country with 99.94% victory, blah blah blah"

And therefore you have 'opposition' in the form of NMPs, NCMPs.

Oh yes, of course, and Chiam See Tong and Low Thia Kiang & his pock-marked face of a law lecturer-mistress too.

we have no heard both sides of the story yet. lets wait for an official statement from the uni... maybe theres something we dont know about

but reading official statements from the past they probably wouldnt make much sense anyway

jcu is a messed up uni anayway
why did singapore let it set up shop in singapore anyway

[quote]And the compliance of the "Australian university" is hardly surprising in itself. "Westerners" who need to come here to make a living include those who could not get a similar position back home. Those are what Goh Keng Swee once described as "second-raters" who were "good enough" for talent-scarce Singapore.[/quote]

Indeed.

And still rings so true, even today. Demonstrates what wisdom De Goh - the REAL archiect of modern Singapore - has.

Smart enough to see thorugh Dirty Harry's scheme of tricks and so long ago left this God-forsaken place - "Yew, you want to swallow up the whole of this land for yourself for yourself? Fine, be my guest. I ain't gonna play YOUR game!" - and till today, is still kept by the PRC almost as if he is their living national treasure.

What would it be like if Singaporeans hadn't been fooled by LKY and had made Keng Swee PM instead?

Only one answer: We would have risen up the ranks of industrialised nations and maybe even have become another Japan! And much earlier too, instead of us going sideways and mostly downwards in these last 30 years!!!!!!!!!!!!

Long live GOH! (Not that stupid 1.96m of height - developed of physique but underdeveloped of brains - Hokkien of Eng Choon County GOH CHOK TONG, of course!)

In truth, the west has already, in some form and measure, been Singaporeans try to rid themselves of the Lees and their cronies and pet kangaroos.

Just look at the articles western media have been writing in defiant criticism of the Lee Dynasty time and again, despite knowing they will be hauled to court to answer non-existent charges that already also carry with them pre-determined outcomes - first in the world to do that, our courts, mind you, haha; another first, yea!

It's in fact Singaporeans who are letting these western media and pro-democracy, pro-human rights folks down by their own very impotence.

And in so doing, Singaporeans are also letting themselves down - not to mention of course their future-borns!!!!!!

Shame on you, Singaporeans. If I were those do-gooders, I'd much rather turn my attention elsewhere - Myanmar, Zimbabwe, etc, anywhere but here - and rather see you guys sink in the stinking pile of P(AP)OO that you have managed to form and take shape and continue to accumulate in your STINKapore!

So, please, c'mon, leave those JCU dean/CEO angmohs alone, will ya? When you can'teven rid yourselves of shit that you poo'd!

Why Sylvia Lim is still teaching at Temasek Poly ?

Because she is a responsible credible moderate opposition leader who talks sense other John Tan who behave like a real kangaroo !

Since when did Sylvia Lim break any laws ?

John Tan has broken the laws on countless occasions and deserve to be punish !

I wonder what his wife will be saying to him now he is suspended. Will she run away with another man ?

John, if you are reading this, paste your wife's photo here and see if there are any takers out of sympathy.

And to those who tried to defame Sylvia and other WP leaders here, watch out. We will not hesitate to take legal action to clear our name, don't forget Sylvia is a distinguished lawyer herself.

... is this James COOK - of great British explorer fame - University?

Or is it actually the James CROOK University? Since it is now in apparent cahoots with crooks the likes of Lee Kuan Yew and family and Hakka clan.

[quote=Conspiracy Theory]Make you wonder why WP's Sylvia Lim is still teaching at Temasek Poly.

The school's administration even changed their rules to allow her to stand for elections.[/quote]

Exactly.

One should wonder who are the close knitted ones with old man.

*jacys is only doing one part of the 'job' (a stupid one) perhaps because SDP readers are growing*

[quote]The three are charged for wearing the T-shirts within and in the vicinity of the Supreme Court building when a hearing was being held before Judge Belinda Ang [/quote]

Aiya, i noe oredi, so if wear such tees far far away fm Courts buildings mean okiez lah?

Okie dokie, i m gg 2 wear kangaroo t-shirt wen i go 2 mt MP @ Tg pagar 2nite - so mata cannt catch me ya?

Oso wear anoth i invented 2 TP MPS next wk - in front say "WANTED - FOR ESCAPE - MAS SELAMAT", behind reads "NOT WANTED by Singaporeans for Ministership - WONG KAN SENG"

Boleh?

[quote=NOT MY SDP]SDP is asking the obvious. Employees should know that they are part of the organisation that they work in and their criminal actions would tarnish the organisation's image and reputation that has taken so long to build.

It is disgraceful that John Tan and the SDP chose to politicise this issue as an academic and as a party. By making use of education and the school, John Tan should be given the boot.[/quote]


SDP is asking [color=red]for[/color] the obvious. Employees should know that they are part of the organisation that they work in[color=red], and that [/color]their criminal actions would tarnish the organisation's image and reputation that [color=red]have [/color] taken so long to build.

It is disgraceful that John Tan and the SDP [color=red]choose[/color] to politicise [u]this issue as an academic and as a party[/u] [color=red](??)[/color]. By [u]making use of education and the school[/u][color=red](??)[/color], John Tan should be given the boot.

Wth does John Tan have to do with the Lehmann saga? If you mean he's an opportunist trying to put his name to anything vaguely related to freedom of speech in Singapore, then maybe got link.

Bloody opportunist even turned up at JBJ's funeral to GIVE OUT FLIERS!!!

OMG John have you no shame?

Insidious LKY is like a huge octopus with tentacles reaching every which way....."If u oppose or even criticise me and my feelings are hurt, I will get you completely and fully whoever and wherever you are. Don't play play with me. Just accept the PAP way and shuddup your mouth!"

legality aside, i really wish pap will not resort to such measures. talk about building a gracious society...

Derek;

You do know that JCU is a world leader in marine biology etc? whilst i wouldn't send MY son there for, say, an MBA, i would send them there in a FLASH if there were interested in studying in the area's in which JCU is strong.

As for the actual case, i think JCU jumped the gun, and probably should have confirmed who the author of the email was, checked with Singaporean authorities etc - all this goes to show is how much fear there is in Singapore about doing the 'wrong' thing.

That said, if the same chain of events had happened in Australia (and the veracity of the complainant verified etc) the outcome would have probably been the same.

I'm a previous student of John Tan, so I would understand his actions of wanting freedom of speech and so on, based on his living and education in the States for 10 years. However, John, You must understand that this is SINGAPORE, not the States or Australia.
If you wanna play the game, you just gotta abide by the rules --> simple as that..not saying you cant change the rules of the game, but you just gotta take into consideration of everyone in the same "game".
I agree lots of changes should be made in Singapore, but these things take time..I'm sorry if you may not like the current pace of changes or the things that cant be changed. If this is the case, my advice would be for u to change your "game" --> just go back to the States and get ur PHD in psychology..

Shame on JCU.. James Cook University? To learn cooking, a pack of kangaroos! JCU Act Smart.. retarded sounds better isn't it?

How illegal TBT is?? It was such a peaceful protest, don't speak for the sake of speaking. You are none other than a dog of PAP.. what a letdown!

Action was taken against John Tan and it was based on an email from someone whose identity could not be established. This is anything but academic rigour. Is this how James Cook University teach their students, to draw actionable conclusions from unsubstantiated 'evidence'? If their students have any sense, they should stop wasting their time there forthwith and save their parents a wad of their hard-earned cash.

At the very least, JCU needs to find out who Collin Lim is. Perhaps they can start by considering the regular agent provocateurs on this website, i.e. the likes of Mike, Victor, jacys, AnnA's impersonator, etc.

It is obvious that JCU is in Singapore for nothing but the money it can fleece from parents desperate for their offspring to obtain a high quality university education. How far removed it is from Warwick University, a true world-class university, which dropped its plans to set up in Singapore in October 2005 because it knew that its academic freedom will be curtailed by ignorant, arrogant, and conceited ministers.

even foreign university so scared, what else local university.

pap of course will crack down on anyone who puts them in an unfavourable light..

e.g. professors and even.. the average singaporean. wow.. ridiculous. at the expense of taxpayers money among many many other things.

All I can say - WTF!!!!

[quote]if the same chain of events had happened in Australia (and the veracity of the complainant verified etc) the outcome would have probably been the same.[/quote]

If JCU had sacked its lecturer or staff member - for pursuing politics outside of campus in his personal capacity and time - out of its own misguided compliance to authorities, the whole Aussie populace would sooner be up in arms and speedily castigated the CEO/Dean.

So, you freakin' don't know what freaky stuff your useless orifice is ejaculating, you dweeb!

Go read more books, travel more, see more - most of all, listen/observe more, you keh-kiang Singaporean!

YP said that in order for PAP to have more votes in future, it needs to give people more oppotunities, fairness, security and freedom. Now we know this is lip service. PAP is never capable of achieving these objectives simply because they have NEVER EVER done it before thus making them an inexperienced bunch. Can you trust them with a change in new governing style? I'd have prefered if they said "...give people more prosecution, imprisonment, taxes and death" I would likely to have trust them to make it.

[quote]If you wanna play the game, you just gotta abide by the rules[/quote]

What/whose game/rules????? Siao!

[quote]Wong Can't Sing - Jacys - [/quote]

That shorty Hakka asshole can't sing cos he's got a short tongue.

And I doubt he can even hum now - especially after what I did to him on February 27, heeheeheeheehee

EIGHT MONTHS, EIGHT DAYS - AND STILL COUNTING, hahahahahaha

Cheers, Kan Seng, don't be depressed - you're already short enough. Lost more centimeters after my great escape?

Die lah...next time John Tan's children must apply to SM Goh for a letter which could be shown to prospective employers, saying the government did not hold anything against him and employers should evaluate him fairly on his merits.

Why the shit you bother? No one cares what you say anyway. You probably dun care also what I say. You are never gonna change anyone. Let me tell you something, we are never going to be convienced by this government NO MATTER what it says. For me, PAP has always stood for Prosecution And Punishment and nothing else. This is the very first impression I had of PAP and it never went away. I know the government is reading this, listen, you should have studied business ops and developed your human skills. But it's too late now, you have lost one potential supporter a very long time ago. Good bye.

I am a undergraduate from JCU singapore campus. I personally have attended 1 module by Mr John Tan. I think his teaching is very professional, and his insights on looking things deeper is inspirational. I am sad to see him suspended.

However, i think SDP should put the university in a bad light. If there are political implications, and the worst case scenario is that Ministry forces the closure of the school, it will be the students who suffer. The university has to think about the students first.

On the other hand, i hope the university will continue to employ Mr John Tan in the future.

Singapore is owned by Singaporeans, not by LKY alone.

If someone is talking about rules of the game, he must know that those rules are drawn by Singaporeans based on universal values, not by LKY or PAP based on their self-interest.

Come on. Live your life in a way you want. Don't live your life in a way LKY wants. If you do so, it will be very pathetic.

In my opinion, LKY is finished. He has just a few more years to live. It is too late to repair his image. He is going to be remembered as a tyrant and political coward in the modern Singapore history.

Dear John and SDP members,

You guys will all be remembered as heros and admired by the democrats all over the world. Keep on fighting for democracy and human rights.

sdp ah sdp...

why u keep imposing ur views on the WHOLE WIDE WORLD one??

u EXPECT unis to act in a certain way...

u EXPECT people to act in a certain way...


otherwise, they'll be CONDEMNED and found short of your AMAZING LIST OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROPER DEMOCRATIC CONDUCT...

so u mean, besides YOUR way, we cant act any other waY? in other words, we can democratically CHOOSE not to be democratic?

this, i noe, warrants an intellectual discussion... whether or not one can actually democratically reject democracy, or would there be an inherent irony etc.

but the point really is, YOU ARE SCHIZO.

some times, when it suits u, u cite series of examples of how FOREIGN MEDIA/UNI/COMMENTATORS consider spore a sham/3rd world/undemocratic etc...

on the other hand, when this very same group of pple doesnt prove your point... you complain about them?

why not be consistent? if u contradict yourself... i also very confused... next time when u lash out another comment lampooning spore by a foreigner... am i suppose to believe it or question if deep down, somewhere, sometime... this particular ang moh is also being "undemocratic"??

you and your little hopes of making everyone conform and subscribe to your notion of democracy is... interesting at the start... but after chee decided to fake hunger strike and go on glucose drip... really the fun ends there.... it is getting repetitive, tiresome and worse, increasingly sound like a kid losing a game and WHINING ABOUT IT NON STOP ALL DAY LONG..

pls la, up your skills or dont play this game... the audience by the sidelines are FREAKING BORED... sympathy has eroded into suspicion and lol SIANNESS!

all the best, dear john tan. if u r so good, maybe try another university? or get the TWENTY EIGHT (wow, wat a huge number!) SUPPORTERS of yours to start a new uni?? den im sure u can teach indefinitely... hows tt?

BUNCH OF JOKERS.

jacys is a stooge lah. nothing more.



she is starting to sound like idi amin.

singaporeans are con by all these off shore Uni which are not recognised by local employers and govt.Dont waste $$ on this education.

JCU in Singapore is a business ... they need the PAP. Naturally, they kow-tow.

PAP needs us to vote them to power, yet we kow-tow to them ...

Some thing is wrong, don't you think.

However, don't expect the world to be united by your cause. Humans are essentially selfish.

I think the SDP should think of ways that works ... (I have no answer and I don't know how, although this approach may work).

Go yawn yourself in front of your grand master lah.


PAP STOOGE!

Take from CNA:

"The university's chief executive officer Dale Anderson said Mr Tan was not a staff member at the university but was contracted to teach Psychology."

So Tan still has his job at NUS (if he is a lecturer there). What's the big fuss now?

I dont think the most important thing is doing all these talk about how bad PAP can be or is..or publicizing how much ill-treated and bad stuff PAP have done to u..
Most importantly is that SDP.. u gotta do some (sensible) actions to show us that you can make that changes for singapore and singaporeans.. otherwise it's pretty difficult to convince some people..

That sucks, that really sucks.

I would have thought a foreign university, whether set up in Singapore or not, would at least have the subtle balls to not be cowed in staffing matters like the Numbskull University of Singapore.

Should be renamed to James Poof Uni. instead lah.

[quote][b]Would JCU have behaved in a similar way towards its academics back home in Australia?
If not, how can the university claim to provide quality education to Singaporean students if it is so fearful of the Singapore Government?

Is JCU in Singapore just to make money regardless of the type of education it provides or does it value academic freedom[/b][/quote]

?????????

[color=red][b]LKY RULES SINKAPORE AND STINKAPOREANS![/b][/color]

"James Cook University"

Is is Cook or Crook when it unfairly dismiss John Tan ?

Mr Student,

U said, "...SDP.. u gotta do some (sensible) actions to show us that you can make that changes for singapore and singaporeans.. otherwise it's pretty difficult to convince some people...."

Ya, I agree with u that SDP has not proven itself. But, I hope u would, too, agree with me that PAP has done enough to prove itself to be incompetent and making series of mistakes after mistakes....

"And to those who tried to defame Sylvia and other WP leaders here, watch out. We will not hesitate to take legal action to clear our name, don't forget Sylvia is a distinguished lawyer herself."

Hi jacys, Sylvia a distinguished lawyer? Why would she want to go teach in a poly then? Yea...she is "distinguished lawyer" with no balls!

And I actually mean it. Please sue me. I can prove that this "distinguished lawyer" has no balls!

[quote=Jadenster]That sucks, that really sucks.

I would have thought a foreign university, whether set up in Singapore or not, would at least have the subtle balls to not be cowed in staffing matters like the Numbskull University of Singapore.

Should be renamed to James Poof Uni. instead lah.[/quote]

Just no Balls Uni?

[quote=jacys]
John Tan has broken the laws on countless occasions and deserve to be punish !

I wonder what his wife will be saying to him now he is suspended. Will she run away with another man ?

John, if you are reading this, paste your wife's photo here and see if there are any takers out of sympathy.
[/quote]

Previously I have said that Jacys has shown himself to be irresponsible because he would say something and when challenge always act blind and dumb and continues on with other rubbish..jacys has also shown himself to be a either a schizo or just lack of integrity or both, when he makes allegations such as Dr Chee being a PAP "mole" but before you could even blink, starts contradicting himself and blames SDP for not working with the government the way WP does..and next jacys has admitted himself to be a weakling, one who would shy away from physical training / NS responsibilities because according to him, even committing extreme act like getting charged in court is considered a "good deal" just to "keng/siam" NS training..and not surprisingly now, jacys has exposed not just his usual immaturity but also earn the title of a "scum" who would have no qualms about writing irrelevant insults not just about another person but their family as well..however to me the mentality also reflect the kind of person jacys would be to his wife or friends when they are in trouble, one who would "run away" even if he has to do it alone because probably noone will want to adopt him anyway, not even for "sympathy" sake.

This "Jacys" keeps claiming to be a WP member which I really doubt. The statement "we will not hesitate to take legal action to clear our name" does not sound like WP style, it sounds more like from the PAP! He suspects that CSJ is a mole planted by the PAP. I think he himself is a bigger suspect! Looks like he is trying to sow discord between opposition parties. Don't fall into his trap when he tries to make Sylvia Lim sound like a PAP member. We should be wise enough to know our fellow opposition members better.....

[quote]I will lose interest in WSJ if they apologize and agree to pay damages.[/quote]

Well, WSJ won't PLEAD GUILTY, that's for sure and a given, maybe an unknown known, as what my ol' pal Rumsfeld would say, hehehe.

Local court will it GUILTY, that's a KNOWN KNOWN!

"Oh, heck, it's only a couple or a few hundres of thousands; pay up, and let's go on doing business here in Singapore
- go up your charges, rates WITH HARRY'S BLESSINGS thereafter to these chinkie, indies & malaise peoples to recover what your legal 'losses' -
screw 'em up nice and properly.
"Hell, we're here to make tons of money, aren't we?"
is THE ADVISE I personally give to these WSJs, FEERs, IHTs, whenever they come bumping up against that yellow Jewish Lee family.

PS - As though it ain't bad enough they're a Yellow Peril, the Lees even have to be Hakkas - Jews and bloodsuckers of the East! Darn

What a laugh. PAP wants Singapore to be a innovative centre but stifles political activity, a core hub of free speech.
This sends out a message to citizens and Australian universities alike that innovation and creativity is bad if it challenges the status quo. With the PAP at the helm, Singapore will always be a 2nd rate assembling factory.

What JCU had done is perfectly correct and should not be so highly politized by SDP, its very unfair to the school being not able to rebuke so much unfair accusation that had been uncalled for.

If JCU is indeed scared of the government, it would not have employed John in the first place for so many years. Since JCU is in Singapore, I trust it falls under the jurisdication of Singapore employment act, therefore, outsiders UNION should keep their BIG Mouth shut. In Fact, John should appreciate his suspension to pursue the Court case, as his job is still intact. Why blame JCU, nobody asked you to be sued in Court, right? But with so much negative publicity created by him, JCU now has the full right to sack him.

This kind of crap has been going on for ages in this land and as long as PAP stays in power, we can expect more of these. I really wonder how PAP is going to give S'poreans Opportunities, Freedom, Fairness and Security. Right wing party and facists.

Interesting, I thought its out that John Tan is not an employee of JCU, so why didn't SDP get its facts right. I guess its the way SDP loves to do, generate publicity because they know organisations wobble with that kind of attention. This is bullying and intimidation to me. So tell me what happens when John Tan has to attend court on the day he has to teach? Cancel classes and send the students home?