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As the souped-up engines roared and the fancy cars burned rubber on our roads, one in four Singaporeans turned up to watch the racing spectacle, making it a sport with real mass appeal.

Yes, that's what happened in 1966 when the Singapore Grand Prix was held at its permanent Upper Thomson circuit. Half-a-million people from a population of close to 2 million thronged the area to witness and enjoy the event in a carnival-like atmosphere. With food and drink in hand, Singaporeans young and old converged on the grassy knolls and whatever space they could find to catch the action that included the vintage and saloon car categories.

Contrast this with the recent F1 race held downtown. Reportedly 100,000 attended the race – half of them tourists. One wonders how many of the remainder are millionaire residents and expatriates. With tickets ranging from a few hundred to several thousand dollars, you can be sure few were locals.

Hotel accommodation around the circuit went for as much as $1,000 for standard rooms with the Government apparently demanding one-third of the revenue. Luxury yachts were available for rent for as much as a million dollars so that tycoons could entertain their guests.

What about the locals? Too bad -- no money, no talk.

The then-and-now of motor-racing is symptomatic of society in Singapore which has become the playground for the rich. There's really nothing wrong with this except that locals serve only as props and backstage hands to put up this grand show so that the PAP can bask in the accolades showered by the foreigners.

In fact, the commercial gain of the race to the average Singaporean was questionable. Businesses in the cordoned-off area were badly hit. Motorists couldn't get around the city area without having to take detours because of the road closures.

What about the jobs created from the race? As with much of everything else, foreign workers were available in abundance to ensure that no crumb that fell off the organiser's and Government's table was left behind.

The casinos are another example. Built by the foreign poor to cater to the foreign rich, Singaporeans are just bystanders cued to ooh and aah at the right moments when the Integrated Resorts are unveiled.

Easy money. That's what the F1 and casinos really represent. They are there for one purpose and one purpose only: To continue attracting the super-rich to this island by bringing in entertainment only they can afford. This way, the PAP can tell us how wealthy we are even as we see our real incomes shrink and retirement savings evaporate.

This is not the kind of economy built on enterprise and diligence. We know we can't compete on the innovation front with a system that is determined to wring the creative life out of every resident here. So we resort to creating an island where dirty money, vice and thrills for the rich can call home. The PAP calls it "vision".

The question that Singaporeans had better be asking is: Is our country headed in the right direction? Is making money, however we do it, the be-all and end-all of this country? With the economic crisis looming ahead are we prepared for the knocks when we've placed ourselves in the hands of so-called financial movers and shakers?

Even as we build this playground that we call Singapore, we had better start thinking of the shelter we will be needing pretty soon.



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Comments (42)
  • Bernard Chan - Spot on AGAIN
    SDP, you guys are spot ON again. You tend to see what the normal Singaporeans can't perceive; even if we are able to notice it but we are not able to write it so vividly.

    Thank you SDP.
  • HK - the Elites pay are based on growth
    Dear All

    Everything has a starting point.

    In Spore, the elites : Ministers, Civil Servants are all paid ridiculous salaries simply because they can!

    Who to stop them? That rubber stamp otherwise known as Parliament (Toilet)?
    Where laws are changed for the elites' benefit.

    They say they are talented and needs to be paid super high. The country's Treasury (run by the same greedy bunch) simply pay.

    Have you ever wondered why their ex-Minsisters or ex-Top Civil servants cannot get employed by private organizations?

    Why do they allow so many poor uneducated foreigners to work in Spore? So that they economy can grow and the Elite can get their pay rise.

    It is that simple.

    It does not matter that locals cannot find jobs simply because the foreigners can work with 2 days off a month; and 12 or 14 hours per day. A local cannot work on such condition as the employer will be hauled to court. This is a ridiculous situation.

    But all for growth. For that increase in salary that is justified by economic growth.

    Now you see the elites rape the country of Singapore; disadvantaged the Citizens especially the poor out of their jobs; and through their controlled newsprint which they proudly call newspapers, trumpet their success to the world.

    This is a Country pillaged, ravaged & incestuously tainted by that single Family & their cronies. Even the Political Party is a cover for the Family to extend the reach of their greedy hands.

    Shameless Family.

    May they be cursed for 20 generations with strokes, cancer & still born.

    I am really angry and I apologise for being so hateful.
  • Mike - I disagree
    F1 has shown how beautiful Singapore. There may other indirect benefits. Do not be too quick to jump into conclusion.
  • Eeeediot - First World Facade?
    Hmm...yeah I mean holding the F1 just causes inconvenience to the lives of other people and road-users. Don't really care whether it's the FIRST ever night-race or what...

    Did it really earn revenue for our people or for the organisers (read: Sinkee Inc.)?

    Also, while we are at it, let me just add in/bring back the Olympic medal thingy... Taxpayer's money used for buying back a Silver medal...and then what? Suppose to feel proud of that? I feel prouder for our Paralympians and Mr Tan Howe Liang than these money-grubbers A.K.A China B-Team (... And boy am I glad the Torch didn't have to come by this way.

    Also, is holding the FIRST-ever Youth Olympics suppose to help us in any way? More revenue for Sinkee Inc.? Wayang much? Chance to let our young sportsman to shine? You want to let our young sportsmane shine, very easy. Just expose them to the real Olympics instead of using 'mercenaries'.

    Also, will the Casino be another place of illegal activities (e.g a la NKF) despite having rules and security measures? You never know =


    Your thoughts, people?
  • AnnA - Recession
    I saw the news today on Yahoo news page. Says that US is in recession and so does Singapore. Will be official by this Friday (if I'm not wrong).

    Thanx to someone's ugly wife and daughter-in-law.

    One good news though, time for those citizens who couldn't buy flat to start looking for one.

    Sorry guys, I think its fair enough to give the commoners a break. God is Great, yeah? Think positive. We will not be affected too much because we have been facing our own 'recession' for quite sometime already... The grandmothers and grandfathers already practice since 5 years ago...

    One more wish... May the land that is building the casinos collapse :P
  • Ng E-Jay - Good article
    A concise and hard-hitting take on the F1 event. Stripped of the veneer of all the propaganda surrounding it, the F1 event is clearly just a plaything for the rich and well-connected, with questionable benefit to the resident population who had their small businesses affected and who had difficulties commuting during the event.

    The comparison with 1966 SG Grand Prix is also very good, and serves to illustrate how locals are increasingly being alienated in their own country in the name of globalization. "Built by the foreign poor for the foreign rich" indeed.

    Surely there has to be more enduring ways for the nation to earn money and create jobs for its citizens.

    Are these elitist sideshows all that we can do to attract wealth and boost our economy?

    Or are these more down-to-earth but harder-to-implement solutions, like giving Singaporeans a well-rounded education, exposing them to ideas from all around the world without the usual paranoia from the PAP.
  • snabsnab - Excellent Article
    Well done SDP...excellent article and observation...hope you'll win more votes and support! Cheers!
  • Observer - Sandwiched Singaporean
    "I know that many Singaporeans who are not so poor but also not so well off feel that they are pressured. Middle-income Singaporeans and they feel that they’re the sandwiched class, stuck in the middle. But when you ask who is the sandwiched class, all the way from quite low down to quite high up, it’s a very fat sandwich..." - PM Lee

    We can make an assumption that soon it will be rich foreign talent, top of the sandwich. Poor foreigner worker bottom of the sandwich. Singaporean all stuck in between, dependent on government support, while letting the rich and famous enjoy our country.

    If one look far enough, one day it might be that Singapore might become a place whereby only the super rich can make it while the majority of people, the singaporean are just there to serve them. Income discrepency will be wider with the rich getting richer and the average Singapore remaining as where they were. Different classes of people might develope in Singapore when we make our country into a playground for the rich and famous.

    Will this country developed into a place meant to be a home for Singaporean to enjoy and live in or will it become a place served only for the sole purpose of economic growth and money making for the elite.
  • as simple as abc - simple fact - get real
    [b]ONLY FOR PAPEES TO STAY TO COLLECT MONIES TO STAY IN POWER LAH!

    JUST THROW THEM ALL OUT!
    [/b]
  • Husrin - Thumbs up.
    I love all of you guys here. (Except Mike)




    You represent the smartest and, most intelligent portion of the Singapore population.



    It's what keeps me going day by day.




    Go you guys! Go SDP!


    (:
  • abc - F1 is good for Singapore
    F1 is one of the most popular sports. Singapore has put herself on the world map. This will indirectly help the economy, I think.

    I personally support F1 in Singapore. It is just a pity that we don't have the foresight to be the first to do it in Southeast Asia.
  • Daniel Ling - re: I disagree and agree (Neutrally)
    [quote=Mike]F1 has shown how beautiful Singapore. There may other indirect benefits. Do not be too quick to jump into conclusion.[/quote]

    For a rare once, I actually agree with Mike.

    There are indeed indirect benefits
    - Hotels making money
    ** Yes but the profit is still taken by the Owner (Aka Elite/Rich)
    - Branded Retails making money (Read the cashier count cash till cannot take it)
    ** Same as the above
    - Cheap Labour (Those tat carry this carry tat) gets a job for this period
    ** It's only for a few days, after the event, it will still be jobless cheap labour.

    So does this benefit us?

    At the same time i can also think of direct NON Benefits
    - I can't go Suntec to eat wat i wan
    - I can't go tat area to ride my bike
    - I wan see free show cannot
    - A Place in the Central of SG, tat has been set up over time, through blood and tears, etc. With $ tat we can safety say we Citizens share in (Tax, etc) BUT WE R BEING BARRED FROM GOING IN? Although it's fair to say tat nothing is free and this is a "High Class" show, but shouldn't citizens have benefits? Cheaper tix, etc?

    Anyway, just for the note, i'm not interested watsoever in this F1. But i am interested in food at Suntec. So yea, it disadvantaged me. DIRECTLY.
  • John Richards - F1 - what's government's revenue?
    [i]"Hotel accommodation around the circuit went for as much as $1,000 for standard rooms with the Government apparently demanding one-third of the revenue."[/i]

    I don't understand why the government should gain anything from hotel revenues other than the usual GST etc.

    I understand that they wanted the Cricket Club to make payments too and threatened to raise some kind of barrier to obstruct club members' view of the race. In the end, some kind of compromise was reached.Perhaps one of you out there might know what really happened.

    I mean, you hold a race in my frontyard, why should I have to pay to watch?

    Greed knows no bounds.
  • angry_one
    The problem with sinkeeland holding an event like F1 or the youth Olympics is, this is just an island, and the event will technically cripple the whole country in terms of transport and infrastructure.

    It's not like some foreign country with a great mass of land, where if you build a casino is one city and the city is ruined, the country still stands, and disgruntled residents can move out. Here, you're finished and have nowhere to go.

    40+ years on, and this pathetic island has not thought of a value-add economy that creates things to make money. It still depends on trends, foreign patronage and money laundering to make itself.
  • B
    Call a spade a spade. It is not a integrated resort. It is an integrated casino or a casino plain and simple. I have never heard all the casinoes along the Las Vegas strip called intergrated resorts. Vegas was not built on being a big resort, but on profits from gambling.
  • B
    Just like the IMF. It is the hotel owners and contractors who benefit from the event. While the retail businesses at Suntec suffer becasue of all the traffic closures and tight security. Ask our government to integrate that.
  • k b
    and if we dont get the rich to spend their money here they ll go somewhere else like hongkong
    we have to be competitive in every way
    yes another country could have hosted the gp
    but no country couldve done it as well
    sdp arent u singaporean
    u should be proud when we do well
    and check on us when we dont
    that a proper democratic party
    not raining on out parade
  • Jaslyn Go
    While the F1 event was glorified in the local papers and reported how successful the event has been..

    Let us take a look at the other side of the story..

    The poor deliveries trucks who could only make deliveries from 12am - 5am..

    The overtime salaries these companies have to pay their workers to work only during the time allowed.

    The long queue to drive in to Mzrina area after the event for the special pass holders who are going there for work..(at least 1 hour)..

    The many shop owners whose business were affected by the road closure..

    "Successful" F1 race in SG?

    At what price average Singaporeans have to pay so that the tourist, elites and rich can enjoy?
  • tewniaseng
    IR is just a name to disguise the casino, which is a legalised gambling den,it is no difference from Geylang gambling den except govt can collect taxes if it is legal.
  • ForeignerPR - Where does the money go?
    Just re-stating all the facts...

    You say that the government collects tax on top of the GST. True. You say that they do so to pay their ministers hefty salaries while the common singaporean watches. True. I say they would have got those hefty salaries anyway. True. You say the government is using tax payers money to build the circle line mrt for example. True. I say even foreigners are paying tax (including additional taxes during F1 race). True. The F1 event was a big hit. True. Anything anywhere in the world comes for a price these days. True. The government/leader cannot always make all the people happy by their actions. True. If SDP comes to power, there will be another PAP forum with a bunch of unhappy people blogging like this. True. Any and every event gives the people directly or indirectly involved in it some experience good or bad to learn from it. True. That was the end of some facts.

    Now in the article, when i read "What about the locals? Too bad -- no money, no talk" I could not stop myself from bursting out in laughter. This statement ain't true. Look at SDP for instance, No money, still talk. (Ok, now don't jump on me, I know people are out there are waiting to say No money because of PAP bankruptcy cases etc etc, it was just some humour in the midst of serious talk if you have that sense)
  • Uncle Ver Sg
    [quote]yes another country could have hosted the gp
    but no country couldve done it as well[/quote]

    LOL. Typical unfounded delusional arrogance from some people.

    F1 Shiok or not? Maybe when people got more money and not during recession can enjoy F1 day races. I think even for the rich, F1 has lost its lustre due to the global economic crisis. Too bad for PAP Singapore, the fengshui u-turns of the Ferris wheel and the Merlion couldnt prevent the bad timing of such events...

    I would be much more proud if there was a "Singaporean" F1 driver, but then again most likely he would be a FT import like the Table Tennis players. And even if said hypothetical driver lurches around like a maniac, crashing into every wall he could, count on the State Times to spin it into a story about masterful engineering of the F1 car.
  • Uncle Ver SG
    [quote]foreigners are paying tax (including additional taxes during F1 race). True. The F1 event was a big hit. True.[/quote]

    1. Show proof please. 2. Eye of the beholder. 080808 is the smash hit, not some insignificant F1 night race. (Singapore was 2nd night race btw)
    Boring. Next year and beyond that will be even more boring.

    Maybe got some more illegal F1 wannabes try the same circuit at Marina now with Hondas and Toyotas...
  • ah beng - re: I disagree
    [quote=Mike]F1 has shown how beautiful Singapore. There may other indirect benefits. Do not be too quick to jump into conclusion.[/quote] It's all because the hand is easier to see than the spirit.
  • ah beng - hell money
    It seems the the government has nothing much on its mind excepy money, and it thinks that money is everything. Well, money is just an illusion. Sure, we need money. But the biggest losers are the super rich since they can't take it with them when they die. Look at this way; you are materialistic and you have 5,000 while the other guy has 50 billion and both dies. Who lugi more? I have nothing against money but life is more than that. And gambling is immoral so I also hope the ground collasp.
  • Rio Victor - F1 and our future
    Singapore is not a country,it is a familee affair.The rest are slaves like ancient Egypt or feudal China.Peasants just work for the rulers and have minimum amount to live on without ability to accumulate capital.Enough to eat but not sufficient to prompt a rebellion.Calibrated rule by the Emperor.
  • Albert Ng - To : ForeignerPR
    To : ForeignerPR
    RE : Where does the money go?

    Pardon my language, keep your comments to yourself. We, Singaporeans, can do without your comments coz firstly, you are a traitor who left your country to find 'happiness' in this tiny red dot.

    I reckon you didn't do national service in S'pore and you must be quite 'well off' judging from your comments.

    Will you be one of those dogs who will take the FIRST FLIGHT out of S'pore in the event of a major crisis or catastrophe?

    Before you type on your keyboard and spout nonsensical comment, please think before you type the 'send' button!

    So please spare us (Pure Singaporeans, born & bred here, served national service, the ones who will truely stand by our country for better or worse), and F**K OFF.

    Please have the courtesy to identify yourself before you post your next comment and not hiding yourself at the comfort of your desk with some pesudo/fictitious name.
  • ah beng - to Albert Ng
    Yo Albert Ng, relax lah. We opposition suppoters dun want to be seen as racists leh. I understand your feeling. Maybe he not even a foreigner, just pretend only to get harsh critics so gahmen can say we all SDP people f**ked up. Not gonna fall for their trap man. To ForeignerPR I say 'thank you for your comment, pls comme again and enjoy your stay in S'pore(if you really foreigner).
  • Mike - Vote PAP out
    Well ... Singaporeans are slaves but they keep PAP in power. Why?

    PAP abuses its power, but, Singaporeans let them. Why?

    If you are so frustrated, vote them out.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    SPREAD THE MESSAGE.

    Don't just vent your anger here.

    Talk to your neighbor.

    Talk to your friends.

    Talk to your relatives.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    Perhaps, you have not the guts.

    Perhaps, you like to be abused.

    Perhaps, you are the sorriest bunch of people.
  • Khoon - re: Vote PAP out
    [quote=Mike]Well ... Singaporeans are slaves but they keep PAP in power. Why?

    PAP abuses its power, but, Singaporeans let them. Why?

    If you are so frustrated, vote them out.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    SPREAD THE MESSAGE.

    Don't just vent your anger here.

    Talk to your neighbor.

    Talk to your friends.

    Talk to your relatives.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    Perhaps, you have not the guts.

    Perhaps, you like to be abused.

    Perhaps, you are the sorriest bunch of people.[/quote]Ok, TBT is doing just that. And a lot of people cannot vote. PAP has never asked me to vote before. Come to think of it, when I was working in Europe, I was even given the opportunity to vote for any of their parties in their country, and I was a just a PR!That's what I call democracy.You may not believe me but it's true
  • Albert Ng - Thanks Ah Beng
    Thanks Ah Beng for your advice. Seriously, can't stomach this kind of comment esp that of a Foreigner (whether or not he/she is a foreigner, I don't give a shit. The fact that he/she uses a fictatious name ForeignerPR confirms it).

    Dogs like them, don't have to give any respect. My dog will be more loyal to me in the event of any incident than such human dogs!

    To Mike :

    Hi Mike, am wondering whether u r living in your own world! Has any election held in S'pore since Independence ever FREE & FAIR?

    Tell me with such an election system in S'pore, how can one vote out The PAP?

    Go tell your PAP master, if they are Gentleman, firstly, make the Election Department independent.

    Secondly, tell your master don't need to waste time, money & resources to keep re-drawing election boundaries to their advantage.

    Thirdly, tell them also not to dangle 'carrots' (Progressive Package, GST Offset blah blah blah, only to take it back from us umpteen times, after being 'elected') to voters prior to voting day!

    Next, pls tell your master to give at least one month prior to election date so that all parties have ample time to prepare and convince voters on a level playing field.

    Lastly, let all the counting agents come from all parties ie, counting agents representing PAP to count Opposition votes and counting agents representing Opposition to count PAP votes. And then pls have A NEUTRAL EMPIRE to watch all these counting agents and screen LIVE on TV so that all voters can view first hand.

    When all of the above are met, then can we realistically have a chance of 'VOTING OUT' the PAP.

    But I guess, your master will not heed my suggestions!!!! Perhaps you might want to convince your master?????
  • ah beng - re: Vote PAP out
    [quote=Mike]Well ... Singaporeans are slaves but they keep PAP in power. Why?

    PAP abuses its power, but, Singaporeans let them. Why?

    If you are so frustrated, vote them out.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    SPREAD THE MESSAGE.

    Don't just vent your anger here.

    Talk to your neighbor.

    Talk to your friends.

    Talk to your relatives.

    VOTE THEM OUT.

    Perhaps, you have not the guts.

    Perhaps, you like to be abused.

    Perhaps, you are the sorriest bunch of people.[/quote]How to vote them out? C'mon lah, so many people cannot vote, I also cannot vote. If everyone can vote, then perhaps other stand a chance. Thats why PAP not takin any chances, so they have things like walk-over or is it called bulldoze-over? Whatever, you know it and we know it. But thanks for the tipps, I'll tell everyone. Next week at the meet-the-people session, I'll bring this up to my MP. Hopefully he's from PAP, maybe he will change his mind and join the opposition.
  • ah beng - to Mike
    I guess Mike got a point here, except the part about being a sorry bunch and enjoyin being abused and no guts.
  • Anonymous - re: to Mike
    [quote=ah beng]I guess Mike got a point here, except the part about being a sorry bunch and enjoyin being abused and no guts.[/quote]

    Depends on which "Mike" we think it is! Haha!
  • Eeeediot - RE:Albert Ng
    Yes Albert I will agree with you that for once, the counting of votes must be done LIVE because I don't see any harm in doing that right? In fact, this will prove once and for all whether these pappies are as clean as they claim to be!

    I am not sure if anyone else here read before what one person wrote was that he saw the rigging of 1997 Cheng San votes (his name is Robert Ho by the way). He even put down his contact and IC number and stuff and had more than one witness. If you all interested can go search for it?

    Also, someone once mention that the voting process isn't really 'secret'...in the sense that there are serial numbers written on the ballot paper and will be used to check against the names register. Can someone confirm this?

    See, if these pappies resort to underhand means to win, doesn't this mean that they have no confidence in themselves; that they know they aren't all that good and clean as they claim to be?

    Can someone from their side explain why the need for such underhand means? Convince us if you can although I am sure it'll likely be futile. =
  • anon - re: F1 - what's government's revenue?
    [quote=John Richards]
    I don't understand why the government should gain anything from hotel revenues other than the usual GST etc.

    I understand that they wanted the Cricket Club to make payments too and threatened to raise some kind of barrier to obstruct club members' view of the race. In the end, some kind of compromise was reached.Perhaps one of you out there might know what really happened.

    I mean, you hold a race in my frontyard, why should I have to pay to watch?

    Greed knows no bounds.[/quote]

    Not exactly. The negotiations were for the rental for the Padang, and the dispute was on the terms and conditions for use of the club during that period. For example, how many of the club's patrons (hundreds, thousands?) would be allowed into the circuit during the event, how many free tickets were allocated and where they could watch it from.

    As for revenue, it was 30% tax for trackside and 20% for non-trackside hotels, to recover part of the high cost of holding the event, which boosted hotel earnings during this period. The rate will probably be reviewed for 2009.
  • Anonymous
    [quote]
    F1 has shown how beautiful Singapore. There may other indirect benefits. Do not be too quick to jump into conclusion.
    [/quote]

    Hi Mike,
    any increase in biz at geylang because of F1?
  • Uncle Ver SG - End the PAP SideShow please
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRlOpUaeY4PY&refer=home

    [b]Singapore, in Recession, Ends Currency Gain Policy (Update1) [/b]

    We recession, PAP ministers no recession.
  • tewniaseng
    All auntie uncle don't complain about 21% increase in PUB charges.The more u vote Pap,they will increase utility bill more, and then they will say, they give u subsidy by giving HDB dwellers rebate according to 3 rm, 4 rm etc..Only when u have strong oppositions, then they will not dare to any how increase the charges.
  • ForeignerPR - Re: Albert Ng
    To: Albert Ng

    "Pardon my language, keep your comments to yourself. We, Singaporeans, can do without your comments coz firstly, you are a traitor who left your country to find 'happiness' in this tiny red dot." - I have pardoned your language. If you feel the traitor thing is true, then so are your ancestors and thus yourself who came to Singapore in the first place, leaving their country decades ago.

    I reckon you didn't do national service in S'pore and you must be quite 'well off' judging from your comments. - Thank you

    Will you be one of those dogs who will take the FIRST FLIGHT out of S'pore in the event of a major crisis or catastrophe? - Maybe I will, because I have a choice. But let me remind you, after the dogs go, the bitches will follow suit.

    Before you type on your keyboard and spout nonsensical comment, please think before you type the 'send' button!- If something does not make sense to you then it need not be nonsensical. I 'click' the send button, what you said about typing the 'send' button was nonsensical

    So please spare us (Pure Singaporeans, born & bred here, served national service, the ones who will truely stand by our country for better or worse), and F**K OFF. - 'Pure' singaporeans... ha ha ha

    Please have the courtesy to identify yourself before you post your next comment and not hiding yourself at the comfort of your desk with some pesudo/fictitious name. - How does it matter who I am?
  • ForeignerPR - Re: UncleVerSG
    Foreigners do pay tax in Singapore - www.iras.gov.sg
  • Albert Ng - To : ForeignerPR
    For the record, I am born here, bred here and brought up here till this date and I will die here. So was and did my ancestors.

    I maintained that you are a traitor who gave up on your homeland to find happiness in our tiny red dot. What a loser you are.

    And by the way, who are the bitches who will flee with you in the event of a crisis in S'pore? Your mother, wife, girlfriend or sister?

    Having said that, I do not wish to waste my time arguing with a 'dog' like you.

    Go smell and lick your master's asses.
  • Foreigner PR
    Its a shame that all you can think about it a dog, and btw, the bitches I was referring to is your sister and girlfriend
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