Singapore Democrats

Why were Chee's questions judged "irrelevant"?

Because Judge and Singh had presumed that the Lees and PAP were innocent on those issues Chee tried to raise.

But Chee was questioning precisely their innocence on those matters of high public concerns.

Was it right for the Court to be, on those issues, prejudiced in favour of the Lees and PAP right from the start of the hearing?

In Chee's mind, those issues were crucial to the question of Lees' integrity and reputation - which was what the court hearing was about, in assessing the purported "damages".

So the court had assumed, even before hearing Chee out, that the Lees had that much a reputation, "damage" to which the Chees had to compensate. Therefore, any attempt by Chee to show possible grey areas in the assumed "reputation" was disallowed!

Looks like you have elephant memory to be able to recall every word exchanged. With that, I totally believe what you said about your conversations with Tunku Aziz and Peter Eigen.

bravo bravo tks for sharing, i think a lot pp here will agreed what is true. except some stubborn pp who like to read shitty and talk rubbish here.

I am not surprise about all happen in court. Very sad.
We have a hopeless court, a hopeless media here.
When can the people see the truth.

The fact that a person's integrity need to rely on a piece of paper is already one big joke.

When the history turn over this page, the world will get to see that the lees are making a mockery of Singapore

This is to announce :

Aunty Ang and Uncle Singh will be promoted to Grade A Scale for using only 2 words in Lee's Court:

"Irrelevant" and "Sustained"

[b]It goes to show - that you spent half your life studying, paying Uni fees to end up taught to say only these 2 words[/b]!

"Top" Talented Civil Servants??

Hahahha,this is great, you expose the type of legal system that lee create.

Dr.Chee I can't believe all the things you write..no wounder LKY said you are a liar.

How can LHL did not say a word and insulated from your questions. He is the greatest political leader in world...if salary is the yardstick of greatness.

How can I believe that he did not attempt to answer your questions. The ST reported that he remained cool and composed. He should prepared to answer "all" your question.

He is the Prime Minister who just happened that LKY is his father. How can you said his lawyer shielded him from your childish questions.

It is next to impossible to believe that LHL did not answer your question. You must be lying. You lair.

You should have written the truth (which I dream last night). You question LHL, the lawyer objected and the judge said "irrelevant". But the great leader PM LHL cut in every time and say: "your honour, I agree with your judgement that it is irrelevant, but let me proceed to ans his childish question. I will move him like all great leaders in history. I will convince him until he hug me and join my PAP party. Please let me answer his question head on".

Dr. Chee you liar, you did not report the truth...it is the truth bec. I saw the whole proceeding in my DREAM.

Well on the serious note, when LKY dies, this sissy LHL will have a hard time. DR. Chee pleasee do not give up.

Perhaps SDP and both Dr Chee and Ms Chee should take this case to the International Court of Justice as a neutral court since Singapore recognizes ICJ's authority and jurisdiction over legal matters.

The defendants seem to be fighting not only against a fomidable legal team, which you will have to pay for eventually, but a judge as well.

Where is the justice?

Imagine that! Wanting the Prime Minister to make time to come to court to give evidence in his own lawsuit - lawsuit that he started?

"Ponteng" Parliament- later can even escape parliament w/o valid formal application?

Milling around outside the courtroom the entire day were a detail of 10 to 15 security guards assigned to protect the Prime Minister when he arrived in court.

Question: Who pays for their time? Obviously the taxpayers

What a bunch of hypocrsies!

Yet just look at some of our ignorant pp'le at PAP website - the STAsiaONe - all the GRC Kings, RCs are giving thier comments in favour of Papa Lee and Son- must be getting hefty bonuses for FY07/08.

It seems that the whole court is hammering on DR Chee.

I have run out of words.

In my heart, I only feel proud of Dr Chee, Ms Siok Chin and lawyer Ravi , but i pity yew and son.

I vow not to read Straits Times no more, and in turn educate my family not to watch local news on the local TV.

They can destroy Dr Chee but they can never take his passion, compassion, and love.

The court case is about the sinkaporean future and many generations to come. Well, people can bitch about DR Chee and friends , but they will realise this truth one day.

you can keep asking what has DR Chee done for you, you must also ask yourself whether you have given a chance to Dr Chee to prove it.

You can have all the money you want you want in your life, but if you are empty inside, you are just as worthless.

In sinkapore, you can starve one day even if you are double-rich.

I feel ashamed to be a local sinkaporean. I cry for the sins of the media people.

God and all deities help Dr Chee and Siok chin !

And Mrs Chee, many people know how you are going through, please be strong ....we love your children too....

From the kind of exchange going on in the court room. Has the PM really opened his mouth to say something? It looks like he is there for a show and the conversation is just between Chee, Singh and the Judge. The PM is not in control of his own lawsuit at all.

Sad that our fellow citizens are still in the dark...
Truth must prevail under any circumstances for the rule of law to apply to everyone.
Singaporeans will never get their facts right if any party in this dispute tries to evade answering questions pertaining to the disputable allegations which must be proven to be either baseless or factual.
This trial is in actual fact a time for the MM and PM to enlighten the people on NKF and PAP governance and to prove that the two entities are never parallel in any way;rather than to silence ground sentiments.
It should not be drawn to a personal defamation suit as no individuals were specifically cited.If there was any,then PAP should be the one to sue SDP and not just the MM and PM alone.
Afterall,as the Chinese saying goes: "Pure gold is never afraid of fire".

But will Aunty Ang today allow for adjournment since JBJ sir is unable to attend today from Johore?

Only LKY court can answer that?

When I was in Malaysia about 10 years ago, I witnessed the same situation in the trial of Anwar. I witnessed the injustice done to him. I was also taken aback at the extent of people's indifference to what was happening to the justice system. Now, we all know that how wrong the Malaysia's judiciary then was. People who believed that Anwar was politically finished was all proven wrong.

Definitely, one day will surely come when everybody knows that how much injustice has been done to Dr.Chee and SDP by the kangaroo courts in Singapore under Lees.

And I believe that one day will come within the next 15 years. To be more accurate, it will come after the next election.

Dr.Chee and SDP,

I am proud of you. I support your fight for democracy, human right and freedom. You all are my heros. I salute your courage and strong will.

Don't worry about hitting them below the belt...it's their own medicine after all.Give the PAP back a taste of their own medicines that we Singaporeans have been getting!

Gone were the Ghandhi days of slap on right cheek offer left cheek lah!
Its PAP's medicine

This case concerns the future of singapore, and the future of our local generations to come.

Some of us are still living on past glory.Like everything else there is an expiry date. If old ones don't go, new ones wont come.

After the demise of ah meng at the singapore zoological gardens, there was a search for another animal - so no one is indespensable lah

I believe in Karma and it's getting back to them both, father and son. Like NKF Durai has his karma come upon himself soon for cheating poor peopl's money!

Let's get Obama or Clinton, whoever loses, to run Singapore for us. At least they will ask for only just 10% of their big fat salary.

The issue that concerns many authors of postings here may be summed up thus.

While it is arguable that the Chees' conduct in court may amount to "contempt of court", ie.failing to follow court procedures, etc., the authors are not convinced that it amounts to contempt of JUSTICE, the ultimately important thing.

Judge Ang should be concerned that by wanting to uphold her court by charging the Chees of contempt, she is also upholding justice.

Court procedures may sometimes obstruct justice, in which situation wisdom is called for of a judge to allow the necessary lattitude.

What do you expect from a kangaroo court? LKY and cronies have turned the court into a circus and the laughing stock of the world.

To WOW!,

What is so difficult about remembering everything?

When I testified in court the other time, there were at least 5 persons taking notes. They note down WORD for WORD, sometimes even requiring me to speak slowly

Five weeks jail or $5,000 fine for opposition party leader

'I continue to maintain that what I have done is well within the law and my constitutional rights,' Chee told the court.

His lawyer M. Ravi said he will be appealing the conviction

Singapore has tough laws on public gatherings, and protests are rare.

What stupid law/justice??

This reminds me of the Anwar trial...

Unbelievable, we pay 3.7m a year for him to hide behind the skirt of Singh. Judge Ang, thanks for showing me great cronyism at work. Dr Chee, please don't give up, one day Singaporeans will turn around; I did.

I think the quote :

Chee: He has used words like "fix" and "buy votes". He's here to tell me that his reputation is based on so much. I’m here to demolish it, when he buys votes -

has been used out of context by Dr Chee

If this is a 100% actual account of what transpired and gets reported in ST just like the NKF trial, the public's perception of SDP will change overnight.

There is no doubting the level of credibility and impartiality of the judge in this case.

KANAGROO COURT is a fitting title indeed.

Dr Chee did mentioned that many of the questions to LHL and LKY are similar. Please then cite 2 or 3 of the questions to LHL which were successfully "objected" but later when put to LKY they were answered by the latter (the father god).


That would prove that LHL is shielded from all attacks an his father god dares to take on the fight. That shows how weak the sissy is.

If this is how the Lees conduct themselves in court and the decisions of the judge prevails then FEER does not stand a chance. How can FEER question LHL. No wounder the Singapore court does not allow Feer to engage the Queen's Counsel, bec. for the latter they cannot play this trick.

The QC arguments are closely watched by the world legal community and Lees' lawyer and the kangaroo judge dares not "any-old-how" object the questions. That would make the QC like a fool that do not know what relevant questions to ask in the first place.

Remember last yr. younger brother LHY was questioned in the Australian court. I hope the day will come when LHL will face a foreign court judge for matters relating to the the Temaseck investments.

Just image when the prosecutor lawyer ask LHL how Madam HO Jinx is related to him? Would lawyer Singh "object"...giving stupid answer like ..well Mdm Ho is actually not a woman and since she is not a woman and same sex marriage is ilLEEgal in LEEgapore so the question is irrelevant and irrational.

When asked to prove that Mdm Ho is not a woman, lawyer Singh would said that Mdm Ho is answerable to LKY so there is no need to prove. LKY has inspected and you cannot doubt his integrity. Sounds stupid? Yes it is stupid.

Dr. Chee, these objections appeared in open court and the whole world is watching.

However LHL will later claim that he dared to appear in the open court to "answer" (the objections will not be mentioned) any questions fielded by the opposition. History will then record him to be a cool leader who can withstand all questions from the strong opposition leader. It would record that he gone though the baptism of fire of all types of irrelevant questions.

For his hard work and battle experience in court, he will have 25% pay increment.

Welcome to Singapore world-class (LKY's little world) politics.

Thursday, May 29, 2008
Singapore. Judge Belinda Ang's Kangaroo Court

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This is Gopalan Nair in Singapore today, May 29, 2008. I have been in Singapore since May 25, 2008, and staying now at Broadway Hotel, Room 708, 195 Serangoon Road, Singapore 218067.

I am deliberately stating my identity and my present exact location for a definite purpose. On day 2 of the trial in Singapore, day before yesterday, in the Lee Kuan Yew and son verses Dr. Chee Soon Juan case, Lee senior had said in answer to a question by Dr. Chee, that if he, Lee Kuan Yew, knew the identity of bloggers in cyberspace who defamed him (defamation being used of course in the Singaporean sense), he will sue and bankrupt them.

He had earlier sidestepped the question by saying, that he had difficulty suing critics of his in the Internet because their identities were not usually known. When pressed, he categorically and deliberately stated that he will sue if they made known their identities.

Well, what you are going to read should be without question defamatory of Mr. Lee and his son, that is in the warped and hare brained Alice in Wonderland meaning of the word "defamation". It will be interesting to see if this Singapore strongman, Lee Kuan Yew and son, who strut around the small island of Singapore bullying everyone who so much as criticized, will sue me now for calling him nothing more than a small time street bully; since now, we have myself Gopalan Nair who has the temerity to identify himself and state his presence with full address in Singapore.

Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, see here. I am now within the jurisdiction of your courts; I repeat, "the jurisdiction of your courts" because literally they are your courts, willing to commit any crime or injustice you will demand of them.

During the last 3 days of the court hearing, up till yesterday, in the High Court, before your stooge of a judge, Belinda Ang in Court 4, you and your Prime Minister son conducted yourselves as expected, no better than cowards hiding behind the coat tails of your equally cowardly counsel doubling up as a PAP politician in court; who managed with the full co-operation of the said judge to ensure that you came to court merely for form, refusing to answer almost all questions that went directly to your integrity or rather the lack of it.

After the end of the 3 days in court, it left no doubt in my mind that you and your son are indeed what international human rights organizations say you are, nothing more than tin pot tyrants who remain in power by abusing the courts to eliminate your political opponents. You are clearly corrupt, as is your government, because paying yourself $3.7 million is corruption pure and simple and in the end you have lost all credibility and moral authority to govern Singapore.

The following transpired during the last 3 days in court. The judge Belinda Ang was throughout prostituting herself during the entire proceedings, by being nothing more than an employee of Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and his son and carrying out their orders. There was murder, the rule of law being the repeated victim.

The issue in the said court was the determination of the quantum of damages payable by the innocent victim, Dr. Chee Soon Juan who had earlier been found liable by this judge for defamation of character of Mr. Lee and son, where the law was once again abused through the contrivance of a process known as summary proceedings, thereby disallowing Dr. Chee to produce any witnesses or to cross-examine those of Mr. Lee because there were none.

The said 3 day of hearing before the court was nothing more than a mockery of justice; a charade, a make believe that appeared right out of the pages of Alice in Wonderland with Belinda Ang playing the role of the Queen of Hearts before the trial of the Mouse who stole the Tarts very well indeed. It almost appeared that she was going to dispense with all testimony and come straight to the verdict of guilty so as not to waste her valuable time!

It would be fair to say, in fact an understatement, that in effect she disallowed Dr. Chee any effective cross examination of either the father Lee Kuan Yew or the son, as Mr. Singh, their counsel was almost having a workout like in a gym; standing up to object, and sitting down after almost each and every question that Dr. Chee put to his father and son clients. In fact Singh was popping up and down almost without let up during the several hours of the hearing so much so, that someone suggested to me that it would have been a good idea if he remained standing throughout the case to facilitate his expected objections at each and every question of Dr. Chee.

If Dr. Chee did manage to ask even one question, it was because he went ahead and asked it despite the objection of both Mr. Singh and the judge because if he did not, he would not have been able to ask any questions at all!

Dr. Chee has asked Lee's son how much he was being paid, that is $3.7 million, 6 times what George Bush is paid! Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks whether it is just for him to corruptly steal this amount of taxpayer's money while the poor in the 1 room flats starve without any financial assistance! Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks why the GIC and HDB function under a shroud of secrecy without any transparency, when the moneys in them is taxpayers money? Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks whether he knew that those who read the Internet overwhelmingly hated him as a tyrant and a bully and the only ones singing praises in his name are the Singapore state owned and controlled media? Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks whether the international community looks at him no better than a despot and a father's son? Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee had asked this Lee Kuan Yew's son why he said in the 2006 elections that " if there were more opposition candidates at elections, he will have to "fix" them and bribe his voters to win elections"? Question disallowed and the son shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

There were many more questions put to him just as the above questions, all very relevant, which, had they been answered, would have shown that he had no integrity or reputation whatsoever, and since integrity and reputation are the issues in deciding quantum of damages, Lee Kuan Yew's son should have been awarded no damages at all; that is provided we have an independent judiciary, which we have not.

Any honest spectator in the court's gallery would have come away with one opinion alone, that is, this man is Prime Minister only because he happens to be the son of his father. If he really wanted to show that he was in fact in control, he could have easily told his lawyer to stop being the Jack in the Box and stop popping up and down with his objections and let him handle the questions. At each question, he was looking meekly at his counsel to see whether he has to answer it. If I could put it in a simple way, he was nothing more than a helpless boy.

The following refer to Lee Kuan Yew's testimony or rather the lack of it.

Chee asked him whether he came to power through unfair means in 1959, as shown by declassified British Colonial Office documents in London? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks about his throwing Lim Chin Siong, his political compatriot, in jail under the ISA in solitary confinement for several years in the 1960s and whether this was a sign of a man with a reputation and integrity? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks about the Operation Cold Store in the 1960s where he jails political opponents because he fears he might be overthrown? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks about Chia Thye Poh, Zaid Zakaharia and Lim Hock Siew, his political opponents whom he imprisons without cause for many many years? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Chee asks whether the only people who have a good opinion of him are his state owned and controlled Singapore press, whereas everyone else in Singapore as well as the entire list of respectable foreign organizations and countries including the entire European Union consider him as a thug and small time street bully? Question disallowed and the father shamefully just sits there, protected by his counsel Mr. Singh and the kangaroo judge.

Other than the dubious Transparency International Kula Lumpur Chapter (not to be confused with Transparency International of Berlin Germany) he was asked whether anyone else considered him in high regard other than the local press which he controls? His answer was that PERC and a Swiss organization, both of whom cater for businessmen thought highly of him. But when asked whether highly respected Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Lawyers Without Borders, Repo...

I used to believe in LKY when i was younger and while i was growing up. But after going through Army and being giving the ability to vote, it cames to me that the government which we had so much faith in is all corrupted and full of shit. TBH while studying overseas, it has opened my eyes to what real freedom of speech is. I admire Dr. Chee affords and feel so ashamed for how cowardly the Lee family and their lackies are.

HO HO ho ho mucky ducky is here!! Stupid stupid stupid!! quack !! hahha lol *toot* :silly: :woohoo: :dry: :lol: :angry: :confused: :X :shock: :s :arrow: :!: :whistle:

People versus Lee

OBJECTION
People: To Lee's rule with stupid, self-serving policies.

SUSTAINED
Judge: No, we have vested interest in this old man's continued rule and existence. He is therefore sustained.
(Bailiff, go get the respirator for the plaintiff, quick!!!)

[quote]Yes, prosperity. But for whom?[/quote]

Yep, like that 90s GE PAP jinGOHism:
MORE GOOD YEARS (for limpeh, limpeh entire family, more and better years of couurse for that Lau-eh, Sway-eh and their entire clan)!

Well done Dr. Chee!

I am totally disgusted with the content of this website. Your lame propaganda scheme will not work on intelligent Singaporeans. Don't claim to fight for Singaporeans' freedom when you are only bent on mischief and destruction. You are hopeless...and an utter disgrace.