Singapore Democrats

Toa Payoh comes under the jurisdiction of "E" Division formerly headquartered at Tanglin Police HQ Stn Napier Rd but now shifted to Irrawaddy Rd near the MHA/Police HQ twin towers.The surprising "no-action" by the Divisional cops, the ISD agents, the hawker dept enforcers and what-have-you can only be an ORDER that came from the very top....the man of the moment Dy PM Wong Kan Seng himself!
This is a radical change of heart as many had assumed and expected the cops with their guns and batons and videos to be waiting for the SDP activists at the venue as they had done without fail at all previous gatherings.
Maybe our battered WKS did not decide on his own but took counsel from the brand-new Minister of Law and 2nd Minister of Home Affairs K Shanmugam as well as the brand-new Attorney-General Walter Woon?
Is this a good omen of things to come for the SDP democrats and democracy in S'pore? Is the tide turning? Your guess is as good as mine... SDP shld conduct another similar public gathering asap and see what happens. Cheers to all democrats!

A little off topic. I see the poll on Mas Selamat and the results concur with my personal observations with street talk and sentiment on the ground. Many believed Selamat has died in detention. While I myself find this ludicrous - because there are easier ways to cover up than go to such length as concocting an escape - what it seems to say is that people has very little credibility with the information disseminated by the authorities these days. And this will continue as long as things remain opaque and the government is unwilling to be transparent.

something bug/puzzles me.


how would tt person's mp ho peng kee know he wont be happy if she took the flyer?

next place u guys should go is amk. den maybe tanjong pagar or marine parade

In the past, the PAP Government has, under the pretext of fighting Communist subversion (a legitimate and defensible enough aim), and of maintaining "order" and "political stability" (a questionable enough aim), chosen to take advantage of the inevitable political dominance of the PAP - as a result of their carrying out such internal security actions and operations.
But not all of Lee Kuan Yew's formidable foes are Communists or subversives.(Some are not even politicians, but simply academics or professionals who happen to disagree with him!)
LKY has, through the years, sought to undermine the chances of opposition parties in electiona through various legal and administrative measures. The PAP Government has also crucially adopted judicial punishment of their political opponents in order to destroy these political rivals. (Why is our judiciary so compliant, intended or otherwise, to the dictates and purposes of the PAP leaders?)
Our electoral s;ystem has also become loaded against opposition parties. Such practices and measures, once established, make it very difficult for opposition politicians to survive and to win in electoral contests.
There is also an undeniable psychological barrier to developing strong opposition parties: Singaporeans simply harbour a deep-seated fear of exposing their identities as critics of the PAP Government or of being seen as open supporters of opposition parties. They understandably fear government reprisal, surveillance, harassment and intimidation by the police or ISD agents - should they choose to openly declare their support for the opposition.
How can we persuade these fearful voters to come forward publicly and identify themselves as supporters of the opposition parties? This is a challenge to developing a strong opposition presence in Parliament.
Without greater public willingness to show their OPEN support for the opposition, and in the face of political apathy, it will be harder to build a more successful opposition (in terms of both quantity and quality of supporters).
Come on, fellow Singaporeans! Please show more courage and confidence in yourselves!

One thing I find you guys are getting good at nowadays is marketing. The speed of which you post photos, upload video, getting a pretty babe in mini-skirt for interview and remaining upbeat when in fact the next door street hawker gets more attention than you is absolutely fascinating. Next time, get the beer ladies!

Worst - people who don't support you or buy what you are saying - you attribute it to "fear syndrome" and brand them as schizophrenics. But maybe we really are mindless robots created by the PAP machinery with absolutely no minds of our own as we live under the climate of fear that SDP makes us out to be.

Nevertheless, I still salute you for allowing me to post this comments on your website. It's my viewpoint. I just think SDP can do better than street politics.

Why not get talents, groom them to be good politicians and get the votes in the next election?

PAP pulls a lot of stunt during election, this I totally agree. Call me naive, but I really have no doubt about the election process. if you are good, people will vote for you. They are not blind, and they do have a mind of their own. Look how PM and George Yeo almost lose their ward.

be strong , always be there .

This is the home turf that LHL has so unwisely chosen. Be sure to include a poster/banner that [b]THREE[/b] months since MSK escaped.

TQ SDP for voicing our concerns regarding rise in cost of living.We have to make our presence felt to pressure the dictator that we are not happy living under their iron fist rule.Hope next stop is AMK.Show to the lame PM we are serious about it !!!

The people at the next door street hawker may be secretly checking out SDP due to the climate of fear. The climate of fear does exist if not Jerome would you care to leave your full name and IC number on SDP website or any forum critizing the PAP.

It's shocking that a reporter from nine-three-eight Live could be that dumb not to know about our Constitution and the National Pledge. How could then we expect these reporters to present the news with objectivity?

It's indeed sad that the mainstream media is not only a mouthpiece of the PAP but also one that's silly and stupid.

Dear SDP,

Toa Payoh is a success nevermind about what fear or no fear.

As long as the object is spread all over the island, the people have to make a decision whether they want singapore to sink with the dogs.

Another thing comes to my mind, while we enjoy shaking hands with SDP, we forget all about the police force and the army boys. They are too citizens. They can feel shame, embarrassment, as well as doing the right thing.

Perhaps we could reach out to them and help them to understand better about GURKAS, why they are here?

Share with people working for the police force if they continue to support the wrong cause, their next generation will have nothing left under the Leegime.

SDP, the next time, tell the police people who are making things difficult that sinkapore's future lies in theirhands, ask them to think again before they turn in for bed at night.
They may be happy arresting innocent people who are helping singapore. They will regret one day.

Yes, Tak Boleh Tahan's campaign next blissful location may be AMK, next to the MRT station where Ah Loong begged for votes last GE.The place will get the best hit.

And then, marine parade near the hawker cte.

lastly, Tanjong Pagar may be good place to visit. Visiting this place may also burst a blood vessel or two to bring on a celebration everybody is waiting for.

Cheers SDP, no tiger please.

Kudos to SDP for representing the people of Singapore with your sacrifices , sweat and hardwork. Hopefully more and more people will stand behind opposition parties and thrust forward the truth of democracy into every heartlands of S'pore.
Don't give up and keep thrusting fwd :cheer:

I think it is time for PAP to end its rule in Singapore.

Getting more and more disillusioned with their crap.

"Between being loved and being feared, I have always believed Machiavelli was right. If nobody is afraid of me, I'm meaningless. When I say something, to make it easier for me to govern, I have to be taken very seriously. So when I say "please don't do that', you do it, I have to punish you because I was not joking when I said that. And when I punish, it's to punish publicly. And people will know the next time, if you want to do that when he said, "no, don't do it', you must be prepared for a brutal encounter. (an extract from the Straits Times interview of Lee Kuan Yew dated 30th Oct 97).

So is the "fear syndrome" just a figment of our imagination? Anyway, regardless of the outcome of the petition campaign, what matters I feel is that the SDP's undaunted spirit is admirable and commands great respect.

Well done SDP, one small step for democracy, one big step for SG. The heartlands are the key to breaking the PAP's death-grip on the Singapore voter. When the ordinary people see for themselves that there are those unafraid to stand firm against the bully-boys, you will prevail. Perhaps that is why the usual heavy-handed Gestapo police presence was conspicuous by its absence - the fear-mongers were themselves afraid of the message that would send around the neighbourhood: that an all-powerful government is terrified of a handful of peaceful protestors. LOL!

As for "Jerome" trying desperately to trivialise the moment, consider LKY's arrogant boast in his memoir [i]From Third World to First[/i]: [b]"If you don't fear me, I am nothing"[/b] and then explain your post denying "fear syndrome" and "the climate of fear". Are you calling him a liar?


[i]"And speaking of Mr Wong, the signatures collected for his resignation came close to one hundred. Not bad for a start."[/i]

There are also already 425 signatures on the online petition [url]http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?s16910[/url] calling for his resignation. Many of the comments made are none too polite either.

I encourage any action that counter fear implanted on to us by any political party.

Dear SDP,

The current establishment has encouraged more sexy china girls to work in local coffeeshops to lure more local men to drink beers (tiger not doing well?)

Today's newspapers tell the whole singaporeans that even Ah Loong is egging on these china beer girls to come.

This china-doll-beer- promoters issue has hit the chord of many local singaporeans especially the housewives who voted the establishment last GE.

People now realise the establishment is getting sick to core.

This china-doll- beer- promoters issue is one shameful blight among the locals especially the local Malays.

I hope SDP when campaigning the TBT, also include this China Beer girls issue when you are at AMK.

Our local malays must also understand where the establishment is heading.

The worst is yet to come when the IRS are in operation. The way the establishment is operating, over my dead body, the IRs will become like Macau's casinos. LKY would be dead by then, and we would not able to bring this codger to task.

local Singaporean voters including the local Malays have to decide whether Singapore should become a big red-light district.

Thank you SDP.

The fact that sdp received unexpectedly warm reception via the donations even on the day after the pap government gave out part of the goodies clearly show that singaporeans are very disappointed with the pap government.
Singaporeans truly drive sdp on !!

"Between being loved and being feared, I have always believed Machiavelli was right. If nobody is afraid of me, I'm meaningless. When I say something, to make it easier for me to govern, I have to be taken very seriously. So when I say "please don't do that', you do it, I have to punish you because I was not joking when I said that. And when I punish, it's to punish publicly. And people will know the next time, if you want to do that when he said, "no, don't do it', you must be prepared for a brutal encounter. (an extract from the Straits Times interview of Lee Kuan Yew dated 30th Oct 97).

Now, let's read it a different way...

Between love and being feared I have always believed Machiavelli was wrong. If everyone respects me, I am meaningful. When I say something, to make it easier for me to govern, I have to be taken very seriously. So when I say please don't do that, and you challenge me, we both win for the betterment of the people. I have to show publicly that when we work together as a nation we are a cohesive unit because each man is an asset, not a digit. And when I acknowledge you publicly through transparency people will know the next time you challenge the government's policies, we will listen, we will govern, and our job is to serve the citizens and citizens must be prepared to speak up and share ideas for the betterment of all.

Ask yourself which leader you want, the leader in the first paragraph or the second?

Actually I say do Tg Pagar first. It will have the same impact as the Doolittle raid on Tokyo. Strike at the heart of PAP and maybe someone will burst a few blood vessel LOL.

Sinister Minister,

Your version certainly wins hearts and minds. That is the humanity and respect we want from the government.

Lee's comments constantly show him up for what he is - an arrogant, self-centred, insecure, power-driven basket case. If the rest of his cronies think they can get away with this, they are seriously deluded.

I enjoy reading your posts. Keep them coming!

Thanks George,

You hit it on the head. it is about respect, it's about dignity, it's about having a true voice.

Singapore has matured. If people say it hasn't, it is because people in power have not let the people mature. Now, here's the odd thing... why did they raise the age to collect CPF? It is because Singaporeans are getting older.

Now, I'm no Einstein, but common sense tells me that if my population is getting older, they are getting wiser, becoming more independent, becoming broader in their views especially with the Internet... correct?

This I believe is the fast becoming the fundamental difference between what singapore has today and what it is moving towards tomorrow. One thing i have learned. Some people are great in building things (perhaps the pap), but not good in maintaining them (perhaps the pap?). Others may not be good in building (SDP), but may very good in maintaining and improving (SDP?).

This is the question each Singaporean must ask... who would be better at maintaining and bettering the country? I look at this way. A carpenter builds the house I live in. But a finishing carpenter is the one who does the countertops and cabinets to the standard I want them to be. A maintenance man is the one who comes in and fixes things when they are broken or are about to break.

makes sense?

SM,

Using the analogy of building, the house that Singaporeans live in is first, built on on stilts. It has no real foundation. There is no transparency, no accountability by those who govern the household. Secondly, this house has ceased to be a home for many born and bred here. I'm not sure how many Singaporeans would sincerely proclaim that we love, are proud of our country and would die for it if ever the need arises (which is quite a stretch, I know).

Singaporeans are a pragmatic lot. Self-preservation is the order of the day. Forget about looking out for another human being if it involves sacrifice and inconvenience on my part. The most basic tenet of humanity is lost here, thanks to the PAP, its media and all the public institutions it controls, especially schools.

SM, you have alluded to the fact that you are not a Singaporean. Thank you for trying to encourage S'poreans not only to peel the scales off our eyes, but even to delve into the our consciences and to do the right thing.

George